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Forbidden Planet (1956)
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Robert (Butch) Day
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adams: Hey! Can you use this to visualize the booze for the Near Year's Eve party?



Morbius: Of course! And Robby can make ANY amount and no one will get drunk or have a hang-over!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do any of the artists members have any ideas of what the house would look like with Christmas lights on the outside?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Merry Christmas from Altair 4!


~ Click on the jpeg to see a larger version. (Yes, the green and red lights on the house have wires between them.)Very Happy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!

Thanks!
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You're welcome. Making it was fun. I figure the swimming pool can be artificially frozen anytime Altaira wants to, so she can ice skate on it! Very Happy

I used Paint.net to "invert the colors" of the matte painting, then pasted in the house with normal colors. I raised the brightness on certain areas that were dark blue in the inverted version, to make them look like blue snow.

I found a painting that had a few snow-covered ferns and pasted them in. I found a beautiful landscape and borrowed the gorgeous sky (after dialing up the brightness on it).






It took a few hours, but I loved every minute of it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A great work of art that deserves to be included in any Forbidden Planet prequel!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Back on page 70 Krel made the comment below about Sci-Fi Steve’s video tour of the C-57-D (on page 69) and how it just didn’t seem possible that the ship could accommodate more than a few survivors from the Bellerophon, if there had been any.


Krel wrote:
Bud, I've seen that video, but I don't buy it. The C-57-D is too small to hold a large number of passengers. The ship would have to have fantastic life support and recycling systems just for the number of crew it has.

They were hoping to find survivors, but after 20 years of no contact, I don't think Earth expected them to find any, or they would have sent a larger ship.

He has a good point, of course.

And yet while watching Forbidden Planet on TCM today I noticed (again) that while the ship is still in space, Adams tells the crew that their mission is "to search for survivors."

And then, after the lunch scene, Adams tells Morbius this.

"My orders don't seem to cover the Bellerophon fatalities. I'm forced to contact Earth base for new instructions."

That's a very puzzling comment.

If the C-57-D was only sent to investigate the disappearance of the Bellerophon, and Earth base really didn't think there were survivors, why would Adams have to call Earth to report that they were right? (With only one exception. Morbius.)

Isn't that pretty much what Earth expected?

And remember, Adams doesn't say "My orders don't seem to cover the fact that we found survivors." He says his orders don't cover the fatalities.

All things considered, it actually sounds like Earth expect the poor little C-57-D to take back all the scientists, along with the kids they might have acquired over the last twenty years.

If that's the cause, Krel is right. They're gonna need a bigger boat. I mean . . . ship. Very Happy

But I still don't get why Adam's felt the need to contact Earth. You'd think his orders would have said something like, "If they're all dead, try to find out what happened. And if anybody survived, bring them back."

So, I can't help wondering what Adams wanted to report that couldn't have waited until they got back home?






One last little mystery I've pondered from time to time. What is this little gizmo on the side table in the scene when Doc dies?







It appears earlier, sitting on the corner of the dinner table when the monkey tries to steal the piece of fruit. In fact, when Robby zaps the little simian, he slides across the table and knocks the gizmo to the floor.

Until I watched the movie on TCM today I had always assumed the object that fell to the floor was the piece of fruit the monkey was holding when Robby zapped him.








At first I wondered if it might be the beamer, but it's not. The beamer is an egg-shaped object on three slender legs. So, what the heck is this little object with a round base and a knobby clear plastic top?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look again. It's the control for the shutters!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eadie wrote:
Look again. It's the control for the shutters!

Oh, of course! I think you told me that once before, but I forgot! Laughing

But that means Morbius was a bit reckless to leave it on the dinner table where the monkey might hit it and activate the shutters! What if both he and Altaira were outside when that happened!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BAD scrpt writng? Maybe there is a pocket version OR Robby can turn it Off-on?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like an air hockey - “paddle” ? Maybe Moebius used it to control the shutters too.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my teachers pointed out this article to me.

We Are the Krell — Transhumanist Themes in Forbidden Planet

http://hplusmagazine.com/2014/09/26/krell/

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good Lord, Eadie, you've done it again! Very Happy

That article is intelligent, comprehensive, and beautifully written! The synopsis of Forbidden Planet is like Mary Poppins — Practically Perfect in Every Way!

The analysis of the dangers of a Great Machine like the Krell's is stunning. It encompasses everything I've ever thought of on the subject, and quite a lot more besides. Very Happy

Please tell your teacher that we are very grateful to him-or-her for calling your attention to the article, and we're very glad you shared it with us.

Eadie, I hope you'll also consider showing your teacher what I said about you recently in Contact All Sci-Fi. I want your teacher to know that you've been a valuable member of this board for over ten years, and that you've frequently passed on fascinating information to our members.

Please nvite your teacher to visit All Sci-Fi to see more examples of how her star pupil is keeping all of us well educated! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting article at: https://brandimidkiff.com/tag/1950s/ about Robby!

(There are also several articles following that are part of the same speculation!)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow! That article does some very original thinking on the subject of Forbidden Planet and The Invisible Boy in relation to how Robby might actually the same robot/character in both movies.

I read the second article, too.

Thanks, Eadie! Very Happy

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