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Star Trek Discovery - new series (CBS All Access 2017)
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Gord Green
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've watched the first four episodes of season 2 and found them a bit uneven. The first two I thought were pretty well done.

Stand up comic Tig Notaro was introduced as a ships' doctor and I hope she shows up as a regular.

She was terrific...quirky and matter of fact and an interesting character.



The story was well written and it was good to see Captain Pike take charge.

Episodes 3 and 4 were a bit hectic and confusing....Why would Star Fleet put a Terran Empire ex-Emperor in such a vital role?

The YouTube link of the first two episodes is no longer available, so hopefully you've seen them or you pick them up from some other site like Putlocker like I do.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least for the first season, the show is at best mediocre due to plot holes, awkward dialogue, etc. What's sad is that stories that make sense and character development are important aspects of TV shows but cost the least in terms of resources.

I'll check out reviews and see if there are improvements before I decide to watch the second season.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I watched the first few episodes with Bulldogtrekker, chatting on line, but I was so unimpressed I decided to wait a year or so and see if it grabbed me when I could binge watch it.

I haven't tried that yet.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug Jones Says All That Makeup Is the Easy Part

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/02/star-trek-discovery-doug-jones-season-2-sounds-of-thunder-interview-spoilers-1202045672/

The veteran actor behind countless fascinating creatures still loves playing the big moments of Saru's journey.



(Note: The following contains spoilers for Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 Episode 6, The Sounds of Thunder.)

Doug Jones doesn’t like to know what’s coming next for his characters. “I’m a one-week-at-a-time guy. If I know too much ahead… I don’t want that to inform how I play the scene today,” he said.

But after the dramatic events of Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 Episode 4, An Obol for Charon, Jones suspected that the writers would loop back around to Saru, who went through a near-death experience that had social media on red alert.

“We really had people duped into thinking that was my swan song — that was going to be the end of Saru, which I thought was beautifully played by the writers and the editing,” Jones said. “The timing of that episode was just perfect, the way it played out. It really was a surprise when it’s like, ‘Nope. I don’t have to die after all.'”

There was good reason that Saru’s fate had the audience worried; unlike many other Star Trek series, Star Trek: Discovery has racked up a bit of a body count. “It’s been established on our show is that no character is safe, really,” he said. “Anybody can die at any time. This is the new model of television, right? Keep the audience guessing.”



On “Discovery” Saru lives, but in a much-changed state, as the loss of his threat ganglia freed him from his species’ ever-present sense of fear. “That all becomes a huge conflict that I knew we had to circle back around on,” he said, “so when I got the script for Episode 6 (The Sounds of Thunder), it’s like, ‘Ah. Here it is.'”

The actor has become a legend for creating characters under layers of prosthetics in projects ranging from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to The Shape of Water. However, he said the challenge of Star Trek: Discovery doesn’t just lie with the long hours in the makeup chair, but in the scripts.

“Our writers’ room is full of very smart people, including a couple of PhDs,” Jones said. “Memorizing their dialogue is the hardest thing I have done in my entire acting career. Paragraphs of monologues that involve terminology that I have to look up and some that is not in the dictionary, some you have to look up on Wikipedia because it is Trek-lore instead of real, and so it’s like, ‘Ah!’ So if there’s an episode that’s light on dialogue, I am the happiest camper.”



Jones noted that he doesn’t often get a heads up from the producers when a big Saru episode is coming up. However, he did feel that if his character was about to get killed off, they’d let him know in advance.

“Sometimes, it is when the script comes out — that’s when the character finds out they’re going to be killed off,” he said. “Other times, you’ll get the call from the producers or the showrunners and say, ‘Hey, just a little heads up. Here’s the arc that’s going to lead you to your death in a couple episodes from now,'” he said. “It depends on who’s running the show and how courteous they are. I think the people running Star Trek: Discovery would, indeed. I think I’d get the call ahead of time on that one.”



Jones will soon appear in two episodes of the first season of FX’s What We Do in the Shadows, the vampire comedy based on Jemaine Clement and Taika Waititi’s cult-favorite film. “Their pilot episode was done during our hiatus last year from Star Trek'.” he said. “Episode 5, though, did have to be wedged in near the end of our season. But we made it work.”

Jones is now wrapped on both shows, which means “my hair’s coming in,” he said. “Yes. I don’t love the bald look on me, but it does serve the makeup process easier.”

It’s a sacrifice that he deems worthy to play Saru. “I love him dearly,” he said.

New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery Season 2 stream Thursdays on CBS All Access.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great article, Eadie! Very Happy

And I LOVE the way you integrated those wonderful jpegs, along with your fine job of adding color to key words and phrases. I read your post at 4:00 this afternoon (2-22-2019) and at that moment we had 22 guests on All Sci-Fi.



I'll bet they all caught your new post and loved it.

Excellent! Cool

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From: https://www.thewrap.com/star-trek-discovery-renewed-for-season-3-michelle-paradise-added-as-co-showrunner/

CBS All Access is beaming up Star Trek: Discovery for a third season, and adding a co-showrunner to help Alex Kurtzman.

Michelle Paradise, who serves as co-executive producer for season 2, will join Kurtzman as co-showrunner for the upcoming third season. Paradise is taking some of the load off Kurtzman as he shepherds CBS All Access’ aggressive expansion of its Star Trek universe.

“Michelle joined us midway through season two and energized the room with her ferocious knowledge of Star Trek,” Kurtzman said. “Her grasp of character and story detail, her drive and her focus have already become essential in ensuring the Star Trek legacy, and her fresh perspective always keeps us looking forward. I’m proud to say Michelle and I are officially running Star Trek: Discovery together.”

Along with Star Trek: Discoveryy, CBS All Access has at least two more live-action series in various stages of development. At the end of this year, Sir Patrick Stewart will return as Captain Jean-Luc Picard, in a new series following his Star Trek: The Next Generation character. CBS All Access is also developing a series centered around Michelle Yeoh’s Philippa Georgiou character from Star Trek: Discovery.

The small-but-growing streamer also has the animated Star Trek: Lower decks on the horizon, and is developing a second animated series. Additionally, CBS All Access has ordered two more installments of its Star Trek: Short Treks shortform series.

Star Trek: Discovery is currently in the middle of its second season, which premiered on Jan. 17. Season 2 saw the addition of classic Star Trek characters including Captain Christopher Pike (Anson Mount) and Spock (Ethan Peck).

Paradise was previously a co-executive producer on The CW’s The Originals.

“The massive success of Star Trek: Discovery’s second season launch exceeded our expectations in both driving subscriber growth and generating a phenomenal response from Star Trek fans,” said Julie McNamara, executive vice president, original content, CBS All Access. “With Alex Kurtzman and Michelle Paradise at the helm, we look forward to continuing Star Trek: Discovery’s journey, growing the Star Trek franchise on CBS All Access and bringing fans new Star Trek stories for many years to come.”

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3 Revelations From Spock's Long-Awaited Debut

https://www.tvguide.com/news/star-trek-discovery-recap-season-2-episode-7-spock-arrives-ethan-peck/?rss=breakingnews

Star Trek: Discovery finally did the thing. After much teasing, we got our first glimpse of Ethan Peck's Spock this week, and we learned surprising new details about the iconic character in the process.

Showrunner Alex Kurtzman, who will share top duties with writer Michelle Paradise next season, teased a very different Spock, and he's stayed true to his word. While we hadn't seen Spock up until now, the series has painted a pretty clear picture of where he is in previous episodes. This is a conflicted Spock whose inability to grasp the logic behind apocalyptic visions of a Red Angel has essentially broken his brain. After checking himself into a psychiatric facility on Starbase 5, he subsequently broke free, allegedly killing several Starfleet officers in the process, and has been on the run as a wanted man ever since.

Thursday's episode, titled Light and Shadows, tracked down the troubled Vulcan, who'd been hiding out on his home planet with help from his mother Amanda (Mia Kirshner). A stunned Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) found a disheveled Spock in a cave, feverishly uttering the First Doctrines of Logic over and over again while etching the same six numbers on the walls. A heated family debate between Burnham, Amanda and Sarek (James Frain) ended with Burnham turning Spock into Section 31's custody, where Leland (Alan Van Sprang) planned to extract his memories — a move that would have fried his brain. With help from Georgiou (Michelle Yeoh), Burnham and Spock were able to escape from the covert organization. Back on the run, Burnham finds herself headed to Talos IV in search of answers about her brother.

Here's what we learned from the revealing episode...


1. Spock had dyslexia as a child

We already knew that growing up as a half-human, half-Vulcan was difficult for Spock. However, it turns out there's more to the story. This week's episode revealed that he inherited a learning disability similar to dyslexia from his human mother, making it difficult to read and write. In an effort to help her son cope, Amanda read Alice in Wonderland to him — the same book she read to Burnham after her arrival.

2. His brain might be broken, but he's not crazy

Repetitive mutterings aside, Spock's writings on the wall weren't total nonsense. As Burnham figured out, he'd been scribbling coordinates to the planet Talos IV, the home of the Talosians. It's unclear what business he might have with the big-brained, telepathic aliens, but now that Burnham set a course for the class M planet, we're close to getting answers.

3. He didn't always hate Burnham

Spock wasn't exactly receptive to Burnham when Sarek and Amanda first brought her home. He slammed a door in her face when she extended her hand, setting the tone for a rocky relationship. Their years-long estrangement suggests things may not have improved much in that department. But a flashback showed at least one genuine moment between the pair, with Spock seemingly intrigued by his new adoptive sister. With Burnham fighting so hard to save him, it's clear that there's much more to this already complicated dynamic.

Video at site.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I couldn't get the video to play at the site (only the audio played), but I found it on Youtube and posted it below.

By the way, Spock mispronounced "sentient". He said it with a hard "T" sound — "sen-tee-unt". It actually rhymes with "patient", using an "sh" sound — "sen-shunt".

Click on the speaker icon at this link. Sentient definition
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
"sen-tee-unt". It actually rhymes with "patient", using an "sh" sound — "sen-shunt".

sen-tee-unt is from the original Latin and is (generally) the way it is pronounced in the UK.

sen-shunt Is a US of A * pronunciation promoted by Noah Webster, Jr. (October 16, 1758 – May 28, 1843) deliberately to distinguish American English from British English. [He was a cultural snob.]

* US of A - "United States of America"; U of SA - "Union of South Africa".

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By God, you are dead right, Miss Eade! You realize what this means, of course!

Spock isn't Vulcan . . . he's British!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now, I'm struggling to finish the second season.

I think the problem with the series is writing, as seen in plot holes, the focus on spectacle and action rather than solving puzzles, and uneven quality in the dialogue (e.g., the general snarky attitude on the bridge, very poor diction which makes the crew sound like teenagers, etc.).
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Star Trek: Discovery Costumer on Reimagining Klingons in Season 2

https://variety.com/2019/tv/features/star-trek-discovery-costumer-gersha-phillips-season-2-interview-1203230096/

For the first season of CBS All Access drama Star Trek: Discovery, costume designer Gersha Phillips had to set the visual tone for an era of Starfleet history that takes place roughly a decade before the franchise’s original series. For Season 2, Phillips faced a different challenge: She had to find a way to reimagine classic uniforms from the original series for a new audience. The newest installment of Star Trek: Discovery features the crew of the titular starship encountering not only original-series characters but also the denizens of Talos IV, a planet that looms large in Star Trek mythology.

What were the big challenges going into Season 2?

Introducing the Enterprise and remaking those costumes. Merging those two worlds together and then coming up with that costume, I’d say, was the biggest challenge off the top. Then the Klingons with no armor, with hair, coming up with what that should look like. And once we knew we were going to do the Talosians, that was another big thing.

What did you need to do to make sure that the costumes would feel modern but also true to the originals?

Right away when I knew we were going to do it, I thought the best thing to do was to use our style or cut of what we were doing for Star Trek: Discovery and then just re-interpret it in the Enterprise colors. Luckily for us, when we were prepping Season 1, we were playing with the gold and also I believe the red or the blue. One of those two colors we had in actually the same exact Pantone color that it is today, and one color we had to tweak. Then it was just a matter of figuring out how to do our compression panels, whether to do them on a different color. Then how to bring it down into the pants, whether to stay with the plain pants, what boots they should wear, how to show the rank on the boots, or if we needed to. All of those things we had to take into consideration.

What did you have to do differently with the Klingons?

The idea was that they were out of war — it was peace time — so they were able to grow their hair and they wanted something that looked less militaristic, less battle-ready.

What’s the most difficult thing about trying to show something that looks futuristic but also contemporary?

I spend so much time looking for things. I get inspired by this chain or that texture. Then I try to bring that into what we’re doing. Like the Talosians, for instance, we printed fabric with a texture to create something that I thought would look better than the original. The way we constructed it was also something that created a much more structural feel about them.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen both series of Discovery and I can't say I'm impressed! Spock turns up and is nothing like the Spock that we love or the alternate version in the new films!!! And when he's shaved and dressed still has nothing of Nimoy about him!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good buddy loaned me the dvds for ST:D so that I can see what it's all about.

Been binge watching season #1 tonight.

The sets & visual FX are mind blowing! Don't know what the budget is for this show but it comes off as being on the same scale as a major motion picture.

Glimpses of the Phaser, Tricorder, and Communicator certainly appear cool in design.

Alien makeup is fantastic to behold.

Not nuts at all about the Star Fleet uniforms for the Discovery crew.

Actors are all top notch.

I've read some ST fans hate the show, others love it.

So far I am enjoying it and that comes from a lifelong fan of Star Trek. And one who cannot stand the J.J. Abrams films.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pow, you silver-tongued devil, your post convinced me to put season 1 on my Netflix list so I can binge watch it like you are.

I admit it . . . I'm jealous. Sad

But it will be a week or two before I can start doing that, because I have a few other things on the list that I want to watch first.

After I get the discs and start watching, I'll be sure to share my opinions of the series, which I hope will be as enthusiastic as yours . . . but I'll bear in mind that ralfy's post warned me that I might not be overly impressed.

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