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The Great Race (1965)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to have seen a sequel to TGR. Perhaps the race from Paris to NY that they are just about to embark upon at the end of this movie?

I've read that a sequel was considered but due to a dispute between the director & the studio it never happened.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would love to have seen a sequel to TGR. Perhaps the race from Paris to NY that they are just about to embark upon at the end of this movie?

Hmmm . . . what could the sequel be about that would be just different enough from the first film so that it had its own originality, but not so different that it didn't have the same sort of fun flavor?

How 'bout a story in which a dastardly insane villain steals something from a brilliant scientist in Paris and intends to take it from Paris to New York to destroy the city?

Perhaps the villain kidnaps Natalie Wood, too, and intends to use her as a hostage if he thinks he's about to be captured.

Leslie and Fate team up to stop the villain, "racing" to catch up with him, prevent the tragedy, and rescue Natalie. Leslie convinces Fate that he (Leslie) can't do it alone, but if Fate helps him, it will prove that Fate is the "greatest daredevil in the world" — which is THE most important thing to Professor Fate.

There would be moments when Leslie gets into trouble and it appears that Fate won't rescue him, but then he changes his mind and does so.

When the final confrontation comes between the villain, Fate, and Leslie, the two men work brilliantly (but comically) together to save the day.

We could call this one The Great Rescue!

I know that's not much, folks, but hey — ya gotta start somewhere! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant idea Bud!

This was such a fun movie in the first place. Perfectly cast with the actors at the absolute peak of their abilities!

Jack Lemmon was fiendishly funny, Peter Falk the perfect henchman, Tony Curtis the dashing hero and Natalie Wood....Well, just perfect!

A remake today would be impossible. Although...The sequel playing in my mind is incredible!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By a strange coincidence, yesterday I came up with the perfect sequel to Smokey and the Bandit.

I'll post a description of my idea in the thread for that other "Great Race" movie!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched it on TCM this weekend, the first time in years. What I realized was that despite his rant on Leslie's automobile hood that he had to win his way, Fate's plan worked! He planted Miss Dubois with Leslie so she would be such a distraction to Leslie, that he would win. And it worked! Fate just didn't realize that he DID win his way.

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And just to make the sequel interesting, Bud, how's about we make the evildoer mad scientist a female?
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And just to make the sequel interesting, Bud, how's about we make the evildoer mad scientist a female?

Perfect!

And when they catch up with her, Fate falls in love and wants to join her plot, but Leslie and Max manage to get him away from her and talk sense into the poor, love-sick man.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting idea. How would you cast this movie?

Dr.Fate - Maybe Jim Carry?

Leslie - Hum....Maybe ….Chris Pratt

Who could do the Nat Wood part?

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I always visualize ideas like this as movies made a few years after the original, in a "parallel universe", as they say these days.

We're not really talking about making this sequel in the present, so why talk about living actors we could be cast in these fantasy movies?

In other words, the cast of The Great Race will return as the cast of The Great Rescue! It's just a fun fantasy we're sharing.

Frankly I have no interest in modern day versions of sequels from the 1960s. When I took my daughter and grandchildren to see the Mary Poppins sequel, I was gravely disappointed. It was not a worthy successor to that great movie. Just a lot of CGI special effects, with an actress who tried to imitate Julie Andrews, and a bunch of songs that weren't enjoyable the first time I heard them . . . much less in the years to come. Rolling Eyes

Forgive me, Gord, but I just had to clarify why I don't feel the need to try to figure out which modern actors would be cast in a movie I really wish had been made back in the 1960s. Sad

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You have no argument there from me. There are few if any contemperary artists that have the "gravitas" that the stars of the past poccessed.

There is no one to compare the likes of Chuck Heston, Steve Mc Queen, Humphery Bogart, Natilie Wood, And so many others.

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Gord Green wrote:
You have no argument there from me. There are few if any contemporary artists that have the "gravitas" that the stars of the past processed.

There is no one to compare the likes of Chuck Heston, Steve McQueen, Humphrey Bogart, Natalie Wood, And so many others.

That brings up and interesting idea, Gord. I'm wondering if the differences between the famous stars of the 30s through the 60s and the modern stars is really because of a difference in talent, or is it because acting styles have changed so much.

Take for example the somewhat "theatrical" way dialog was delivered in the old movies, and the more "realistic" way the people in movies talk now. Back then the dialog was loud and clear, no mumbled lines we can barely hear, the way they are in modern movies.

In the classic movies we see actors performing a bit like they're on stage -- and sometimes a LOT like they're on stage! Part of his was because the audio in the older movies was not the sharp stereophonic sound we have now, so the dialog had to be delivered succinctly so the audience could understand it.

I've heard young people say that the acting in the classics was "so different than it is today", and the first time I heard that I really didn't know what they were talking about!

Eventually I realized that it wasn't just a shift in our culture, it was also the result of technical improvements like the one I just mentioned.

And of course there's the fact that the directors in the past had to deal with those technical difference in the movie making process, so they shot their movies in ways that compensated for the less advanced cameras and audio systems.

What I'm suggesting is that you and I appreciate the more "stylized" type of film-making, and this stylization was partly the result of technical considerations, as well as the cultural differences.

Since audiences expected movies and the characters in them to act very differently than "real people", it was also perfectly acceptable for actors to add on their own distinctive styles to there performances. Actors were encouraged to find unique mannerisms, speech patterns, and gestures that would set them apart for the rest of the actors.

That "unreal quality" is what younger people today find odd about "old movies". And yet it's that same quality that make people who are our age love them so much.

Ironic, ain't it?

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