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20 Million Miles to Earth (1957)
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Maurice
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll PM you the address of the Internet Archive and you can send it there c/o me. If you include return postage I'll send it right back.

And it's a $75K film scanner. The results are quite nice, as per this reel I shared over in another forum.
https://archive.org/details/StarTrekTheMotionPictureMicroCircuitry

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pow wrote:
Always enjoyed this film & the Ymir design.

Like many of Ray's creatures, I always felt the Ymir was a victim.

I'm glad to hear you say that, Pow. I read one of your other posts today which said you weren't fond of this movie, generally speaking, because you felt the non-animation parts weren't as good as those in Sinbad, Jason, and Mysterious Island.

But we certainly agree on the design of that magnificent Ymir! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krel wrote:
Pow wrote:
Much as I enjoy this movie & am a huge RH fan,always wondered why he chose to do the rocket scenes as stop-motion?

Wouldn't it have made more sense to simply do the rocket as a conventional model? Similar to the rocket blasting off in "When Worlds Collide?"

Budget. They would have to have made a much larger model for the water effects, and hire an effects shop to film them in a water tank. That would have eaten up a large slice of the budget.

I'm not sure I understand the question, Pow. I think the stop-motion crash landing of the spaceship in 20 Million Miles to Earth looks much better than the rocket FX in When Worlds Collide.

Krel's statement about saving money by using stop motion is true, I'm sure, but I don't think it was done simply because it was the cheaper method.

As much as I love When Worlds Collide and its awesome special effects, the miniatures look exactly like what they were — miniatures. Shocked

I'm not saying stop motion looks realistic, but since I love the look of stop motion, the crash landing at the beginning 20 Million Miles to Earth is a beautifully stylized version of reality in which the rocket moves like a massive object and doesn't look like a miniature on wires.

However, I know this is all a matter of personal taste.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
. . . However, I'm sure a direct scan of the film would be better, and if you'd like for me to mail the original reels to you so you can scan the footage (and mute the annoying projector noise, as well as edit them so that each animation section is a separate video), I would be very grateful! Very Happy

If the 8mm film footage is scanned directly and converted to digital video, there won't be any sound recording involved at all. So, nothing to mute. Did your old 4-megapixel camera not have a "silent" setting?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotpens wrote:
Did your old 4-megapixel camera not have a "silent" setting?

Nope. This was a device made around 2003. The simplest phones today take better pictures and movies than it does. It's ability to make digital movies is pathetic compared to today's smart phones.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's what the Multi-Board Alphabetical Index has for this movie.
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* 20 Million Miles to Earth (1957)

20 Million Miles to Earth (1957) @ SFMB

20 Million Miles to Earth (1957) @ All Sci-Fi

20 Million Miles to Earth @ Alien Soup

20 Million Miles to Earth @ Pushing the Envelope

20 Million Miles to Earth (1957) @ CHFB

CG Ymir Thoughts (1957) @ CHFB

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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These pre-show and post-show remarks by a lovely TCM hostess are delightful. I've never seen the attractive lady — Tiffany Vasquez — on TCM before. But her remarks were both interesting and well delivered.

The YouTube video was submitted on Jul 31, 2018.
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___ TCM Comments on 20 Million Miles to Earth (1957)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alltare and I have been having a discussion in Off Topic Discussions under the title Final Colorization Thoughts, and I offered a suggestion about the colorized Ymir that I thought I should share here as well.

My contention has always been that I've love the Ymir's slate gray color because it resembles the graphite drawings I've done.






But when they changed the Ymir's color it went from the glorious gray of polished granite —





— to this downright sickly green!





One of the things I don't like about colorization is the way the colors are rarely as vivid as they would be if the movie had been filmed in color.

So, my suggestion to Alltare was that perhaps they should have made the Ymir even MORE green — like this! Shocked






I must confess, this Irish Ymir looks pretty good! It has the look of those beautiful snakes in Asia. By a delightful coincidence, the one below is called a cyclophiops major!

Cool, eh? Cool




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maurice wrote:
I hope no one is suggesting there was any kind of computer controlled motion control on 2001. They had some motor driven camera rigs, but nothing on the order of the programmable, repeatable action of the Dykstraflex used on Star Wars.

Yep, I'm afraid "someone" WAS suggesting that, and the guilty party's statement below confirms it. Shocked

Bud Brewster wrote:
As for 2001: A Space Odyssey and pretty much anything made after it, those FX weren't done with moving models on wires, filmed by a stationary camera. They were done with stationary models and computer controlled cameras — and all of those FX are gorgeous.

I stand corrected, sir. Thanks for setting my feet back on the path of truth, justice, and the American way! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read an interesting article recently regarding the Christmas classic TV special show "Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer" (1964).

The technology of using articulated metal armature inside the figures and then moving the figures a frame at a time was considered groundbreaking by the TV Guide Magazine.

They devoted 4 pages covering the process that they apparently had never heard of before, feeling it was revolutionary.

It certainly was...in 1931 for "King Kong."


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect the writer of TV Guide article was keenly aware that the general public had no idea how either King Kong or the Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer special was created, and he wanted to educate his poor, clueless readers.

Frankly I wouldn't have my own keen appreciation for stop motion if I hadn't spent many hours trying to use clay models to make a few 8mm films in the 1960s.





~ Click on the image to see my animation video, with the scene shown above appearing at the 3:55 mark.

I'm sure the TV guide author understood that he was explaining a time-honored technique to a brand new generation . . . who knew nothing about it several decades after it was invented.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's six interesting videos for this movie!

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___ _Movie Trailer - 20 Million Miles To Earth (1957)


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_____ 20 Million Miles To Earth (colorized) - Trailer

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______________________ The Ymir hatches


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__________________ Escape from the cage!


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_______ 20 Million Miles to Earth - Ymir Awakens

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__ 20 Million Miles To Earth (1957) Breakout scene


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