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Earth vs the Flying Saucers (1956)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Questions I have for EVTFS.

The aliens proceed to destroy all 12 satellites the US launches into outer space.

Why?

Because they believed them to be weapons of war? No, they were only for scientific research.

Any race capable of constructing star ships and journeying light years — in addition to their other fantastic technology — should have had the ability to scan the Earth satellites.

The aliens sensors should have informed them exactly what those sats were and that they were no threat to the aliens.

Not to mention that our sats looked like museum pieces compared to the aliens highly advanced tech.

The scene where the humans are inside the flying saucer seems odd.

Did you notice that the chamber they were in was quite large? Would not even a sophisticated and advanced civilization be subject to M.U.A.R. (Maximum Utilization of Available Room).

Their ships would have to make the most of every square inch of space they had inside those vessels.

And these saucers are small compared to star ships such as the Enterprise or Battlestar: Galactica.

It seems unbelievable that they could logically afford such wide open empty areas . . . unless they are doing Broadway plays on their trek so as not to get bored.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pow wrote:
The scene where the humans are inside the flying saucer seemed odd.

Did you notice that the chamber they were in was quite large and had lots of empty space to go around.

Would not even a sophisticated and advanced civilization be subject to M.U.A.R. (Maximum Utilization of Available Room).

Their ships would have to make the most of every square inch of space they had inside those vessels.

And these saucers are small compared to star ships such as the Enterprise or Battlestar Galactica.

It seems unbelievable that they could logically afford such wide open empty areas.

Unless they are doing Broadway plays on their trek so as not to get bored.

Sci-fi films are full of ridiculously roomy spaceships. The spacecraft in Planet of the Vampires (1965) has enough floor space for a disco party -- and a huge overhead dome for dancing under the stars!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forbidden Planet's saucer seemed more realistic in regards to utilizing as much space as possible within the craft and not having vast areas of emptiness on board.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pow wrote:
Forbidden Planet's saucer seemed more realistic in regards to utilizing as much space as possible within the craft and not having vast areas of emptiness on board.

I suppose the most obvious explanation for the big open area would be that it was empty cargo hold.

The picture below looks like the set from a science fiction movie — but it's not! It's a Boeing 787 Dreamliner without the seats!






I'm just suggesting that these saucers — which were used by the crews to flee from their "disintegrating solar system" (as the alien described it) might have been designed to carry cargo between inhabited planets.

Perhaps the single ship we saw was the only one with an empty cargo hold. The others might have contained a treasure trove of alien technology, artifacts, and food items for the aliens! Shocked

Hey, it just occurred to that since these saucers traveled faster than light, the aliens MUST have had colony worlds in other star systems. So why didn't they go to one of them instead of coming to Earth? Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, it's also possible that along with the saucermen's manipulation (To a degree) they were also able to achieve more "space" in their ships by a tesseract effect (Like Doctor Who's Tardis!).



Just speculation....Not really indicated by anything in the film.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking Outside The Plot.

Aftermath. The alien's downed saucers have all been confiscated by the respective Earth governments around the world.

The ships are secured at high security military basis with all news censured from the public.

The finest scientists from every field are employed to do a thorough examine of the crafts. There are no alien bodies to autopsy as they have disintegrated just like the one that was captured earlier.
Once its exo-skeleton helmet was removed the alien faded away from view.

Unfortunately for the experts there is little intelligence to glean from the saucers.

The ''Infinitely Indexed Memory Bank'' has performed its pre-programmed function and has purged itself of all its data.

The aliens were never going to let their precious scientific knowledge fall into the hands of their enemies---especially one that was far behind them technologically such as humans.

The saucers remain under strict security measures and the public is told nothing about the failure to gather vital information from the craft.

The public continues to believe that each day the experts are learning more and more about the aliens saucers.

They believe that such data will not only assist in opposing any more enemy flying saucers should they arrive in the future. The knowledge will also deal with the many issues human civilization has with pollution, diseases, economics, clean drinking water for all, poverty and anything else that nations suffer from.

The most idealistic people even believe that this technology that is thousands of years ahead of human technology could even unite the nations of the world.
Nations that are currently remain hostile to one another.

The military and the high ranking politicians let the public continue to believe these lies when in reality the nations who possess the flying saucers got bumpkiss.

Unknown to the humans is that the saucers themselves are a form of highly sophisticated AI.

They are able to avoid detection by the humans primitive examination devices and tools all the while as the AI observes the humans close up.

The saucers are all damaged to varying degrees from their battle with the sonic cannons.

Damaged to the point of being unable to effectively repair themselves. If they can do repairs it will ultimately give them away in time to the humans.

So now the saucers AI engages their programming which is to release a deadly pathogen into Earth's atmosphere which will in turn eradicate all of humanity.

It is specifically targeted against human beings. Animals, plants, insects and any non-human life will survive in tact.

Meanwhile some of the alien saucers AI have begun to question this ruthless tactic and do not want to engage in it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WOW! Shocked

THAT, sir, is Thinking Outside the "Box" and the "Plot"!

At first I was struggling against my urge to feel less enthusiastic about the idea than it deserves, simply because I've been pondering sequels for years about how mankind uses the flying saucers and the memory banks.

Your new slant on the story goes in the opposite direction.

But as I continued reading your well-crafted presentation I realized how interesting and unusual it was. The part about all the aliens disintegrating after the battle is a nice touch!

And when I got to the end and saw the part about the rebellion among the AIs, I was delighted!

I can't help wondering if you plan to have some of the saucers side with mankind, which might mean the saucer technology could become available to us after al! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is from author Bill Warren's book "Keep Watching the Skies! American Science Fiction Movies of the Fifties."

This was from Warren's review in his book for "Earth vs. the Flying Saucers."

"Throughout his long association with Harryhausen, Charles H. Schneer has proved himself a crassly commercial producer who apparently cares little for the qualities of his pictures beyond their exploitation values. Harryhausen himself, who does his work with such care and skill, has always deserved a better partner than Schneer."

Thoughts anyone?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krel wrote:
Gord Green wrote:
As I recall, when they looked at the saucerman after shooting him with a conventional firearm, he's described as an "ancient humanoid".

I took it to mean that they are an ancient race that needed artificial means and devices to keep them healthy, and alive. Their suits.

You're undoubtedly right, David. Very Happy

Marlow's complete statement after they removed the helmet was, "Humanoid, and ancient. These suits must serve as an electronic and metallic outer skin, to take the place of their atrophied flesh and muscles."

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After watching the colorized version on Youtube today (excellent film quality), I noticed something odd for the first time given how many times I've seen this movie over the years.

The center bottom of the alien saucer has the outline of the large cylindrical-shaped tube that lowers onto the ground from which the aliens exit and enter.

Later on during the saucer's attacks, we see on the center bottom of the saucer the aperture from which lowers their ray beam cannon that they fire to destroy things.

However, when we see the underside of the saucer later on there is no visible aperture anymore. The bottom is perfectly smooth.

Also, when their death ray cannon lowers and then is retracted, just where exactly does it go?

It occupies the center of the cylinder and yet they use this cylinder to descend to the ground. I'm wondering how the cannon isn't in the way of the aliens whenever they use the cylinder to exit their space craft?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excellent observation, Mike! I never noticed that before. Cool

The design questions concerning the presence of the long cylinder that lowers when the saucer lands — along with the weapon which emerges from beneath the saucer — is addressed in the video below.

It proposes that the "landing cylinder" contains the elevator which transports the earthling up into the saucer occupies one narrow section along the left side of the landing cylinder, while the weapon is contained in a parallel section in the center of the cylinder.

The weapon comes down while the saucer is in flight.


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In the screen shot below, notice that the elevator is on the left of the cylinder, while the weapon is located in the center.

The folks who figured all this out are brilliant . . .




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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nicely done YT video on the saucer.

It doesn't explain the lack of the aperture being at all visible for the aliens drop-down ray cannon though.

Also, if the cannon is the aliens only weapon on their spaceship, its location would be totally blocked whenever the saucer has landed and the passenger elevator tube has descended and is on the ground.

Sounds like a poor military strategy and design by these alien beings.

Still, Ray's saucer design remains one of my favs to this day.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1080p colorized:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-JcWNK-0AE
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ralfy is right, this YouTube version is a good as my DVD!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pow wrote:
It doesn't explain the lack of the aperture being at all visible for the aliens drop-down ray cannon though.

It also doesn't explain how they end up in the middle of the compartment after riding up on the lift platform.

My explanation? MOVIE MAGIC!

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