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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:29 am    Post subject: Superman & Lois (2021) Reply with quote

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All I know about this upcoming series is the brief description provided by both Wikipedia and IMDB.
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Follow the world's most famous super hero and comic books' most famous journalist as they deal with all the stress, pressures, and complexities that come with being working parents in today's society.
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The poster says "Coming January 2021", but IMDB and the promos on TV state this.

~ Series Premiere - Tuesday, February 23

Wikipedia says this about Supergirl.
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On January 7, 2020, the CW renewed the series for a sixth season, which is set to premiere in midseason 2021. On September 22, 2020, it was announced that the series would conclude after its upcoming twenty-episode sixth season.
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The trailer for the new series looks interesting.


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Larry Niven's 1969 essay: Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex. About the complexities of Superman's marriage to L.L..

He's faster than a speeding bullet. He's more powerful than a locomotive. He's able to leap tall buildings at a single bound. Why can't he get a girl?

At the ripe old age of thirty-one (*Superman first appeared in Action Comics, June 1938*), Kal-El (alias Superman, alias Clark Kent) is still unmarried. Almost certainly he is still a virgin. This is a serious matter. The species itself is in danger!

An unwed Superman is a mobile Superman. Thus it has been alleged that those who chronicle the Man of Steel's adventures are responsible for his condition. But the cartoonists are not to blame.

Nor is Superman handicapped by psychological problems.

Granted that the poor oaf is not entirely sane. How could he be? He is an orphan, a refugee, and an alien. His homeland no longer exists in any form, save for gigatons upon gigatons of dangerous, prettily colored rocks.

As a child and young adult, Kal-El must have been hard put to find an adequate father-figure. What human could control his antisocial behavior? What human would dare try to punish him? His actual, highly social behavior during this period indicates an inhuman self-restraint.

What wonder if Superman drifted gradually into schizophrenia? Torn between his human and kryptonian identities, he chose to be both, keeping his split personalities rigidly separate. A psychotic desperation is evident in his defense of his "secret identity."

But Superman's sex problems are strictly physiological, and quite real.

The purpose of this article is to point out some medical drawbacks to being a kryptonian among human beings, and to suggest possible solutions. The kryptonian humanoid must not be allowed to go the way of the pterodactyl and the passenger pigeon.

I

What turns on a kryptonian?

Superman is an alien, an extraterrestrial. His humanoid frame is doubtless the result of parallel evolution, as the marsupials of Australia resemble their mammalian counterparts. A specific niche in the ecology calls for a certain shape, a certain size, certain capabilities, certain eating habits.

Be not deceived by appearances. Superman is no relative to homo sapiens.

What arouses Kal-El's mating urge? Did kryptonian women carry some subtle mating cue at appropriate times of the year? Whatever it is, Lois Lane probably didn't have it. We may speculate that she smells wrong, less like a kryptonian woman than like a terrestrial monkey. A mating between Superman and Lois Lane would feel like sodomy-and would be, of course, by church and common law.

II

Assume a mating between Superman and a human woman designated LL for convenience.

Either Superman has gone completely schizo and believes himself to be Clark Kent; or he knows what he's doing, but no longer gives a damn. Thirty-one years is a long time. For Superman it has been even longer. He has X-ray vision; he knows just what he's missing. (*One should not think of Superman as a Peeping Tom. A biological ability must be used. As a child Superman may never have known that things had surfaces, until he learned to suppress his X-ray vision. If millions of people tend shamelessly to wear clothing with no lead in the weave, that is hardly Superman's fault.*)

The problem is this. Electroencephalograms taken of men and women during sexual intercourse show that orgasm resembles "a kind of pleasurable epileptic attack." One loses control over one's muscles.

Superman has been known to leave his fingerprints in steel and in hardened concrete, accidentally. What would he do to the woman in his arms during what amounts to an epileptic fit?

III

Consider the driving urge between a man and a woman, the monomaniacal urge to achieve greater and greater penetration. Remember also that we are dealing with kryptonian muscles.

Superman would literally crush LL's body in his arms, while simultaneously ripping her open from crotch to sternum, gutting her like a trout.

IV

Lastly, he'd blow off the top of her head.

Ejaculation of semen is entirely involuntary in the human male, and in all other forms of terrestrial life. It would be unreasonable to assume otherwise for a kryptonian. But with kryptonian muscles behind it, Kal-El's semen would emerge with the muzzle velocity of a machine gun bullet. (*One can imagine that the Kent home in Smallville was riddled with holes during Superboy's puberty. And why did Lana Lang never notice that?*)

In view of the foregoing, normal sex is impossible between LL and Superman.

Artificial insemination may give us better results.

V

First we must collect the semen. The globules will emerge at transonic speeds. Superman must first ejaculate, then fly frantically after the stuff to catch it in a test tube. We assume that he is on the Moon, both for privacy and to prevent the semen from exploding into vapor on hitting the air at such speeds.

He can catch the semen, of course, before it evaporates in vacuum. He's faster than a speeding bullet.

But can he keep it?

All known forms of kryptonian life have superpowers. The same must hold true of living kryptonian sperm. We may reasonably assume that kryptonian sperm are vulnerable only to starvation and to green kryptonite; that they can travel with equal ease through water, air, vacuum, glass, brick, boiling steel, solid steel, liquid helium, or the core of a star; and that they are capable of translight velocities.

What kind of a test tube will hold such beasties?

Kryptonian sperm and their unusual powers will give us further trouble. For the moment we will assume (because we must) that they tend to stay in the seminal fluid, which tends to stay in a simple glass tube. Thus Superman and LL can perform artificial insemination.

At least there will be another generation of kryptonians.

Or will there?

VI

A ripened but unfertilized egg leaves LL's ovary, begins its voyage down her Fallopian tube.

Some time later, tens of millions of sperm, released from a test tube, begin their own voyage up LL's Fallopian tube.

The magic moment approaches...

Can humans breed with kryptonian? Do we even use the same genetic code? On the face of it, LL could more easily breed with an ear of corn than with Kal-El. But coincidence does happen. If the genes match...

One sperm arrives before the others. It penetrates the egg, forms a lump on it's surface, the cell wall now thickens to prevent other sperm From entering. Within the now-fertilized egg, changes take place...

And ten million kryptonian sperm arrive slightly late.

Were they human sperm, they would be out of luck. But these tiny blind things are more powerful than a locomotive. A thickened cell wall won't stop them. They will *all* enter the egg, obliterating it entirely in an orgy of microscopic gang rape. So much for artificial insemination.

But LL's problems are just beginning.

VII

Within her body there are still tens of millions of frustrated kryptonian sperm. The single egg is now too diffuse to be a target. The sperm scatter.

They scatter without regard to what is in their path. They leave curved channels, microscopically small. Presently all will have found their way to the open air.

That leaves LL with several million microscopic perforations all leading deep into her abdomen. Most of the channels will intersect one or more loops of intestine.

Peritonitis is inevitable. LL becomes desperately ill.

Meanwhile, tens of millions of sperm swarm in the air over Metropolis.

VIII

This is more serious than it looks.

Consider: these sperm are virtually indestructible. Within days or weeks they will die for lack of nourishment. Meanwhile they cannot be affected by heat, cold, vacuum, toxins, or anything short of green kryptonite. (*And other forms of kryptonite. For instance, there are chunks of red kryptonite that make giants of kryptonians. Imagine ten million earthworm size spermatozoa swarming over a Metropolis beach, diving to fertilize the beach balls... but I digress.*) There they are, minuscule but dangerous; for each has supernormal powers.

Metropolis is shaken by tiny sonic booms. Wormholes, charred by meteoric heat, sprout magically in all kinds of things: plate glass, masonry, antique ceramics, electric mixers, wood, household pets, and citizens. Some of the sperm will crack lightspeed. The Metropolis night comes alive with a network of narrow, eerie blue lines of Cherenkov radiation.

And women whom Superman has never met find themselves in a delicate condition.

Consider: LL won't get pregnant because there were too many of the blind mindless beasts. But whenever one sperm approaches an unfertilized human egg in its panic flight, it will attack.

How close is close enough? A few centimeters? Are sperm attracted by chemical cues? It seems likely. Metropolis had a population of millions; and kryptonian sperm could travel a long and crooked path, billions of miles, before it gives up and dies.

Several thousand blessed events seem not unlikely. (*If the pubescent Superboy plays with himself, we have the same problem over Smallville.*)

Several thousand lawsuits would follow. Not that Superman can't afford to pay. There's a trick where you squeeze a lump of coal into its allotropic diamond form...

IX

The above analysis gives us part of the answer. In our experiment in artificial insemination, we must use a single sperm. This presents no difficulty. Superman may use his microscopic vision and a pair of tiny tweezers to pluck a sperm from the swarm.

X

In its eagerness the single sperm may crash through LL's abdomen at transonic speeds, wreaking havoc. Is there any way to slow it down?

There is. We can expose it to gold kryptonite.

Gold kryptonite, we remember, robs a kryptonian of all of his supernormal powers, permanently. Were we to expose Superman himself to gold kryptonite, we would solve all his sex problems, but he would be Clark Kent forever. We may regard this solution as somewhat drastic.

But we can expose the test tube of seminal fluid to gold kryptonite, then use standard techniques for artificial insemination.

By any of these methods we can get LL pregnant, without killing her. Are we out of the woods yet?

XI

Though exposed to gold kryptonite, the sperm still carries kryptonian genes. If these are recessive, then LL carries a developing human fetus. There will be no more Supermen; but at least we need not worry about the mother's health.

But if some or all of the kryptonian genes are dominant...

Can the infant use his X-ray vision before birth? After all, with such a power he can probably see through his own closed eyelids. That would leave LL sterile. If the kid starts using heat vision, things get even worse.

But when he starts to kick, it's all over. He will kick his way out into open air, killing himself and his mother.

XII

Is there a solution?

There are several. Each has drawbacks.

We can make LL wear a kryptonite (*For our purposes, all forms of kryptonite are available in unlimited quantities. It has been estimated, from the startling tonnage of kryptonite fallen to Earth since the explosion of Krypton, that the planet must have outweighed our entire solar system. Doubtless the "planet" Krypton was a cooling black dwarf star, one of a binary pair, the other member being a red giant.*) belt around her waist. But too little kryptonite may allow the child to damage her, while too much may damage or kill the child. Intermediate amounts may do both! And there is no safe way to experiment.

A better solution is to find a host-mother.

We have not yet considered the existence of a Supergirl. (*She can't mate with Superman because she's his first cousin. And only a cad would suggest differently.*) She could carry the child without harm. But Supergirl has a secret identity, and her secret identity is no more married than Supergirl herself. If she turned up pregnant, she would probably be thrown out of school.

A better solution may be to implant the growing fetus in Superman himself. There are places in a man's abdomen where a fetus could draw adequate nourishment, growing as a parasite, and where it would not cause undue harm to surrounding organs. Presumably Clark Kent can take a leave of absence more easily than Supergirl's schoolgirl alter ego.

When the time comes, the child would be removed by Caesarian section. It would have to be removed early, but there would be no problem with incubators as long as it was fed. I leave the problem of cutting through Superman's invulnerable skin as an exercise for the alert reader.

The mind boggles at the image of a pregnant Superman cruising the skies of Metropolis. Batman would refuse to be seen with him; strange new jokes would circulate the prisons...and the race of Krypton would be safe at last.

Bud, if this is too long, I will replace it with a link.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David, It was delightful!

I recall reading it sometime back in the 70's as it made it's rounds amongst the comic crowd!

Thanks for the memory!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krel wrote:
Bud, if this is too long, I will replace it with a link.

It is NOT too long! It's like Baby Bear's portage. It's "juuuust right."

Leave it alone. We like it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My impressions of "Superman and Lois."

Watched the debut last night and found it to be a mix of good and bad.

The Good. Cast was fine and the visual FX were splendid.

What they can achieve on television SF shows today with special/visual effects is astounding! Twenty or even ten years ago they could not have pulled off the visuals I saw last night as well as they did. If at all.

I gotta think that George Reeves is looking down from above and saying "Why couldn't these phenomenal FX existed back in 1952 when we were making the Adventures of Superman?"

The Kryptonian space ship was a simple but nifty design that almost seemed alive.

Supes uniform looks terrific; and no outside underpants!

The relationship between Lois and Clark was strong and done realistically. They have their differences of opinions but love each other.

Clark is one of the most powerful beings on the planet earth but he has his flaws, doubts, and questions himself. Lois provides him a much needed shoulder to lean on and a lot of wisdom.

She's strong but not strident.

Sidebar } It was established in the CW/DC Universe that Kara is, in fact, more powerful than Kal-El.

Never liked that change from the DC comics where Superman is more powerful than Supergirl.

I enjoy the SG TV show a lot; all for female empowerment.
But c'mon, SM IS more powerful than SG. If you wanna update it then fine, make SG AS powerful as SM.

But not MORE powerful.

Bringing in media mogul Morgan Edge as a problem is nice and current given how corporations now run our news media outlets.

The Kent's moving to Smallville has some possibilities.

The Bad. I can easily live without the angry, sulky, pouting teenagers. So many TV shows offer this overused and tired cliche. Boring & annoying.

Clark dealing with his sons makes him come off as Wimpyman.

And they couldn't have Lana Lang's hair red?

*SPOILER ALERT* Last night's premiere sets up an intriguing nemesis for SM. The battle armor is SF cool that this masked enemy wears.
And the armor's capabilities give SM a run for his money.

We are left wondering just who this foe might be? A new one created for this brand new TV series?

Or a time honored one from the pages of the comics.

Answer: Lex Luthor. Sigh. Again!

Lex has appeared as SM's enemy in the movie serial with Kirk Alyn; feature films with Christopher Reeve; on the Superboy syndicated TV show; on Lois and Clark: The Adventures of Superman; Brandon Routh's SM movie; Henry Cavill's SM.
Not to mention many of the DC animated movies.

Lex is WAAY overused as a SM villain. Too often, too much.

Over the course of the Batman films (good and bad) Bruce Wayne has battled: The Joker, the Penguin & Catwoman, Two-Face & the Riddler, Mr. Freeze & Poison Ivy & Bane, Ra's Al Ghul and the Scarecrow.

So ya can see my problem here.

Bats has encountered 10 of his comic book enemies.
Supes keeps getting Lex thrown at him over and over and over, at least in motion pictures.

Why?

They have expanded upon Luthor's character and made him interesting over time in various mediums from his early inceptions in the SM comics.

However, it is time to give him a long needed rest and present fans with some of the other great DC foes of SM.

Brainiac makes a fascinating arch-nemesis for SM.

They FINALLY got around to doing him right on the excellent "Krypton" TV show that was sadly cancelled after only two seasons. The actor playing the role should be brought back as B for Superman & Lois.

Side-Note} Yeah, they did B on the CW's "Smallville" where they disappointingly made him totally human looking. So that iteration doesn't count.

Anyways, as a long time comic book fan, I love that we've reached the age where superheroes can be done on the silver screen and on television so beautifully because we live in an era of fantastic visual effects capabilities.

We are seeing more and more superhero productions as they are incredibly popular.

This delights me to no end.

I'll stay with "Superman & Lois" because it does have some wonderful elements to it.

Just wish they could also avoid cliches and venture into new territory. Especially with the villains.
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After the airing of only their second episode, "Superman and Lois" has been renewed for a second season.
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After the airing of only their second episode, "Superman and Lois" has been renewed for a second season.

I wish them luck, but there have been many TV shows that were canceled after being renewed for another season.

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Krel wrote:
Pow wrote:
After the airing of only their second episode, "Superman and Lois" has been renewed for a second season.

I wish them luck, but there have been many TV shows that were canceled after being renewed for another season.

I like to binge watch shows I really love, so I've put off watching the five episodes I've DVRed already. The next episode is not until May 18th, so I might just go ahead and watch those five episodes today.
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Well, I'm all caught up with Mr. and Mrs. Superman! Very Happy

I swear I can't find a damn thing in Pow's review above to disagree with — even after watching all five episodes, whereas he'd only seen the pilot.

However, he might share a few of my complaints after seeing all five, so I'll list my negative opinions and just let his positive ones be my own for the time being.

* * * * SUPER SPOILER ALERT! * * * *

Negative #1:The pilot has Lois as a famous reporter working for the Daily Planet and Clark being hired. Then, within the first few episodes, Clark gets fired by the unscrupulous new owner, and then Lois quits, after which the family leaves Metropolis to move back to Smallville.

Clearly this is not your father's Superman . . . Sad

Negative #2: I absolutely, positively, complete HATE the moronic idea that Superman can take a big deep breath and blast out super-cold air to instant freeze things! That's plum idiotic, folks! Confused

First of all, Superman's lungs can't hold any more air than normal lungs! His deep breaths can't suck in a bit more air than my own! That's just not how lungs work. Lungs don't compress air, they just expand in volume and pull in sea-level pressure air until they're filled. Period.

And yet we we're supposed to think that Superman can somehow put out fires by freezing the burning material or (even worse, in the pilot episode) creating an iceberg-size mass of lake water and then carrying it back to a nuclear reactor to cool it down.

Bullshit, folks. Compressed air being blown out rapidly does NOT become subzero in temperature. Rolling Eyes

Unfortunately the series used this bogus idea several time in the first five episodes. Once we see Superman freeze a villain who was beating the shit out of him . . and then he knocked the frozen guy out! Shocked

Negative #3: The new Fortress of Solitude doesn't just suck . . . it's a disgrace! It's just a hollowed-out hole in the ice, with absolutely no attempt at imaginative set design or aesthetics! Sad

The sets built for the Superman movies and the Smallville series were beautiful — although I've always pictured it with a "living area" for Kal-El with high-tech equipment, rather than just an Art Deco forest of diagonal crystals!

But the one in this new series is as dull as the pile of cubes in my freezer! Good Lord, what were the producers thinking when they inflicted this disappointing idea on us? Rolling Eyes

Negative #4: Pow was right when he said that Lois and Clark's two sons are the two biggest cry babies on the planet! However, the boys start growing up by the fifth episode, and they begin acting like Kal-El's true sons . . . instead of two whiny foster kids adopted from a family in a bad 1980s sitcom! Rolling Eyes

Negative #5: Pow is right. Lex Luther, again? Pul — lease! Sad

I suppose the producers felt that they'de made enough changes to the traditional Lex Luthor to give us a nice fresh version! Very Happy

For example, he apparently isn't Clark's long-time friend.

He's also black — which actually works better with the bald look than a white guy. It's a nice touch.

And (the most surprising change of all), he's from a parallel universe where he and Lois Lane were lovers . . . until she married Kal-E . . . who then became evil and destroyed his plant!

Wow . . . who saw THAT one coming, eh? Shocked

So, Lex Luthor was actually a good guy in his universe, and he was in love with Lois. He was all set to turn her into "Mrs. Lois Luthor" (please note the traditional LL initials), but Kal-El stole her from him.

She married Kal-El instead — who then became a ruthless villain and destroyed Earth in that universe. And now the "good" Lex Luthor is here to destroy the "good" version of Kal-El to prevent him from turning into another "bad" version and destroying our Earth as well! Shocked

I have to give the producers of this series credit for applying tremendous amounts of pure imagination when they decided to throw out 90% of the traditional elements of the Superman cannon and presenting us with a series that bears little resemblance to what any of us grew with. Sad

Anyway, guys, I'll end this post on a positive note by point out that at least the producers chose to fix Superman's costume by getting rid of that horrible leather cap and attaching it like the Christopher Reeve version — instead of using those ugly-ass straps over the shoulders! Embarassed

Thank God for that! Very Happy





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Actually Bud, Superman's super-breath (for some reason, that doesn't sound right. Does it?) Comes from the comic books.

I have a hard problem watching network shows since they have been using those SUPER ANNOYING voice overs that describe EVERY SINGLE THING that is happening on the screen. Even TCM has started doing this. I realize that it is probably for the blind. BUT I'M NOT BLIND, and I can't concentrate on the show or movie with that. So at the first sound of the voice over I change the channel. I haven't been able to watch an episode of "NCIS" in weeks because of this. And I LOVE that show.

I've started actively avoiding networks shows because of this. They don't do it with every show, but I never know when they're going to pounce. If they want to do this, then they should somehow link it to closed captioning, that you can turn on and off when you want.

Okay, meds taken, rant over.

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Krel wrote:

I have a hard problem watching network shows since they have been using those SUPER ANNOYING voice overs that describe EVERY SINGLE THING that is happening on the screen. Even TCM has started doing this. I realize that it is probably for the blind. BUT I'M NOT BLIND, and I can't concentrate on the show or movie with that. So at the first sound of the voice over I change the channel. I haven't been able to watch an episode of "NCIS" in weeks because of this. And I LOVE that show.

There's always a way to turn the descriptive audio on and off. Have you tried Googling "turn off descriptive audio"?
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As imperfect as you may feel SUPERMAN & LOIS is, at least they haven't rehashed the "same old- same old" we've seen for the last 70 years.

The CM series is in line with DC's current "SUPER SONS" series and presents a Superman for the 21'st century instead of rehashing past stories. It carries the legend into today while still honoring the past.

Nostalgia is great. I have a HUGE collection of the original run ( Earliest I have is Supes #1...

( Couldn't find an ACTION#1 I could afford...my Supes #2



cost me all of 50$ back in "74!) so I may not be an "expert" but I am a Supeaphile! Superman has existed as long as it has because the creators have been wise enough (mostly!) to tailior the myth to the age.

The current series is "just right!". It tells a story of a Superman for today with respect for yesterday. The idea of "super freezing breath" goes back to the earliest Mort Wiesinger days. What the heck....You can believe he can fly and shoot laser beams out of his eyes but he can't freeze stuff with his breath? Next thing is you'll tell me Achillies wasn't the son of Zeus or Poesiden didn't help the Acheacens defeat Troy!!!???

Geeeze! Keep your immortal legendary legends straight!

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Absolutely agree with you Bud regarding the horrendous set design for the Fortress of Solitude for this otherwise impressive series.

What happened after seeing the awesome ones from film and other CW shows? I would add that the set for the FOS from the unfortunately short lived "Krypton" show was also fantastic to view.

Were the previous FOS sets destroyed after the end of a series? Did the artistic team want to start fresh and come up with new set designs? If so, they dropped the ball on this one.

I'm not sure if this set is the same one used on "Supergirl," for the Fortress, but that one is equally dismal looking.

The Fortress should be a fantastic & stunning place that reflects the astonishing architecture & technology of the doomed Krypton. A place of hope. Not a dreary nothing.
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I agree with you there, POW. The Fortress should be more than a bunch of ice pillars! The first hall can be the intersecting crystal shafts, but beyond that should be Superman's tributes to Jor-el and Kara as well as to his terrestrial foster parents. The rest should be his memories of Krypton.

Of course nothing beats the original, Golden Age version...











Where lies the bottle city of KANDOR!





Now...that's MY fortress OF Solitude!

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These are terrific pictures, thanks Gord Green.

I'm assuming some comic book or television show addressed the topic of exactly why the Kryptonian citizens of Kandor choose to remain in miniature form. I can't recall it, does anyone else know?
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