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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Eadie wrote: | I got this picture from The MGM Parade. I wonder if the center 'white' portion is supposed to represent the C-57-D?
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I noticed just the other day that if you watch the small light on that round scope during the first 30 seconds of the scene inside the ship after the narrations ends, it starts out a short distance above the middle --
— and then it moves down to the center just before Adams walks away from Farman and heads toward Quinn.
It stays in the middle for the rest of the movie whenever it happens to be turned on.
If you look very closely you'll notice that the faint circle of light in your picture is not the bright, small light shown in mine -- it's the fainter, larger circle of light which surrounds the bright one, barely visible in both of my picture.
I have a theory! I think the small, bright light is the location of the C-57-D, and the larger, faint light is the Altair system.
During the moments before the ship's deceleration, and the C-57-D was on final approach. The small light moves from the edge of the system (just outside the pale circle of light) to a point close to Altair 4, allowing the ship to decelerate to sub-light speed!
The dot remains in the middle of the scope for the rest of the movie, indicating that the C-57-D is still at its destination. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Robert (Butch) Day Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Possibly the ship itself at different scales. Except the fact that it moved would seem to indicate something else, but what? _________________ Common Sense ISN'T Common |
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:44 am Post subject: |
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The smaller moving spot could be Altair IV. The larger dim central spot... some boundary zone around the ship that requires special attention or procedure when the planet falls within that distance on approach? Like "half-flux"? _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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Eadie Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I found this neat painting of a Robby variation.
It is titled Forbidden Planet (of course) and it is by 'Fubiz'. It got me to wondering about what else we missed in the movie. Here are a few new ones.
Mystery # 1: It was known that Altair, class A7V, was a blue-white star when they making the movie. They showed Altair as a yellow-orange star.
It should have looked something like this.
Using the CHARA Center for High Angular Resolution Astronomy) telescope at Georgia State University in Atlanta they have been able to get an actual picture of the surface of Altair. This is Altair and our Sun (Sol) shown to the same scale and with the Sun's resolution decreased to equal the CHARA picture of Altair and also showing Altair's shape due to it's rapid rotation (average of 8 hours 54 minutes against the Sun's average of 25 days).
Now wouldn't that have been wonderful to see!
Mystery # 2: Why wasn't the camera man more flexible in his compositions? The side table as seen in the movie.
A publicity shot.
A behind-the-scenes shot.
Mystery # 3: Where did all the trees come from? The long shot of the Morbius family home.
Commander Adams goes around the pool.
The back part of the pool.
Fooling around between takes.
The pool and grove area set.
A combination I made of two sets pictures showing the grove area and 'tiger rock' sets together.
That's a lot of trees that grew real quickly!
Mystery # 3: Poor shutter placement. The closed shutters in the movie.
It seems that the stairs to the upper floor are OUTSIDE the shutters. So, when Dr. Morbius activated them where was Alta? What happens if they were in a real situation when they had to use the shutters and either Dr. Morbius or Alta was outside?
Are there even shutters here?
You can see plants outside the canvas wall!
Why didn't we see more of the ship, like the blaster stations? Or a closer view of the airlock hatch?
A Non Mystery: If Forbidden Planet were made today you can bet the would show the bathroom. I imagine that they would have a futuristic sink and toilet similar to this.

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Pye-Rate Starship Navigator
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:38 am Post subject: |
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I found these at a thrift shop! So I had to find pictures on-line.
Gumball machine prizes; a miniature poster and a fake Robby.
When Ataira goes dancing her prize is Robby:
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Great pictures, Pye-rate!
I see that Photobucket is still causing your original photos turn pale after you upload them. I also noticed from you post above that it seems to only happens for the black&white photos, not the color ones.
Odd, eh?
I sent them a detailed email message about the problem that you and I (and I'm sure many other folks) are having with this new glitch.
Hopefully they'll fix it soon.
I did an experiment on my own faded photos and discovered that if I darkened the faded version down using Photobucket's own edited feature, it fixed the one that displays here -- but it makes the original photo even darker -- so dark it was ruined!
If they fix the problem and cause all our faded pictures to suddenly go back to looking like the downloaded originals again, the ones we've tried to fix will suddenly become much darker than we want them to be!
Just thought you should know. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Update on the Photobucket glitch.
I received this email from Photobucket tonight in response to my complaint about the washout jpegs.
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Danny (Photobucket Support)
Mar 6, 3:56 PM
Hi,
I am very sorry for the inconvenience that this has caused you. This is a known issue affecting several users and our engineering team is troubleshooting the problem. We will get this resolved as soon as we can!
The original images are not affected, but the compression software for the web-size is not looking at the grey-scale correctly. We will be moving to another software for that over the next week or two.
Thank you for your patience and again, I am terribly sorry for this inconvenience!
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The bottom line, folks, is this.
* Do not use Photobucket's edit feature to darken the pale images in your albums because, as I predicted doing so will cause them to be extremely dark after the glitch is fixed.
* Color jpegs are not affected, as I observed, so you can continue to post them without any problems.
* According to this joker at Photobucket, it might be two weeks before they fix it! _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958) |
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:11 am Post subject: |
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If I had an alternative to using Photobucket, I just might start uploading my images there instead, from now on. Any recommendations from satisfied users?
We've already been bitten by one web host fail. I'm tired of being nibbled away by another. _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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When I did a Google search of "What image host is the best?", I got results that listed all the same sites -- but in different orders of best-to-worst.
So, I have no idea if there are sites better than Photobucket -- but I'm certain that Image Shack is worse. They lost dozens of my picture before I finally switched to Photobucket. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Discovered an interesting thing about the Photobucket glitch tonight -- all by myself.
But first, a prediction. Wayne has NOT experienced this problem with any of his uploads. . . and I know why.
While uploading pictures to Photobucket for my post on The Monolith Monsters tonight I discovered that only one of the ten jpegs displayed the wash-out look that Photobucket informed me was caused by their software not recognizing the gray levels correctly.
I wondered why that one jpeg experienced the problem when the other nine had not. What could possibly be the difference?
And then it hit me! That one jpeg of the ten was over 2641px wide, while the other nine were 800px or less.
Here's what I got when I uploaded that large jpegs to Photobucket.
* Pale version has been deleted from Photobucket.
And here's what I got when I resized the jpeg on my computer to 800px before uploading it again onto Photobucket).
I repeated the experiment several times with various jpegs, and I got the same results.
So, if anyone else has experienced this problem (besides me and Eadie), simply resize your larger jpegs to 800px or less before you upload them to Photobucket and they won't turn into those pale and pitiful versions we've seen here lately.
And why did I say Wayne has not experienced this problem?
Because he routinely adjusts the sizes of his jpegs before uploading them -- a practice which turned out to be very wise on his part!
Wayne, you are truly The Rocket Man!  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Well, rats. Here I was just getting excited over being able to upload larger images without presizing and letting P-bucket handle the 800-px width limit.  _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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scotpens Space Sector Commander

Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 919 Location: The Left Coast
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | When I did a Google search of "What image host is the best?", I got results that listed all the same sites -- but in different orders of best-to-worst.
So, I have no idea if there are sites better than Photobucket -- but I'm certain that Image Shack is worse. They lost dozens of my picture before I finally switched to Photobucket. |
I usually use the no-frills HostPic.org. It doesn't have any photo editing or resizing features but it's simple and quick. The downside is that it automatically deletes images that are more than a couple of years old.
I also have a Picasa account (Google's image host), but I haven't uploaded any new pictures to it in a long time. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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orzel-w wrote: | Well, rats. Here I was just getting excited over being able to upload larger images without presizing and letting P-bucket handle the 800-px width limit.  |
Don't despair, Wayne! I have sent another message to Photobucket which described this new aspect of the problem I discovered. And I told them rather directly that they were running off their customers by ruining their images with this problem.
Hopefully it will be fixed soon. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Robert (Butch) Day Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with P-bucket is that they can't leave well enough alone. It was wroking fine until just recently. I guess that they have have to give their "programmers" something to do or said "programmers" would be out of a job.
Most of today's workforce either have never heard of or don't believe the old saying:
IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT! _________________ Common Sense ISN'T Common |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree, Butch. Photobucket has more bugs than bait shop. Half the functions they offer don't work worth a damn!
Examples;
When you use the edit function to alter a picture -- resize, brighten/darken, crop -- and then click "replace original", it doesn't do it. You end up with two versions, the old and the new, so you have to delete the old one. And you have to use the code for the new picture if you're trying to alter one you've already posted.
And when you tell it to display the pictures in an album by title or filename or newest first, the thumbnails arrange themselves that way -- but they aren't in that order when you try to scroll through the larger images using the left and right arrows. The pictures show up in random order, following no pattern or organization at all!
Another annoying thing occurs when you try to delete a picture on (for example) page 15 of an album. After doing so, the screen returns to the first page of the album, rather than stay on the same page!
This is especially irritating if you're trying delete more than one picture, because Photobucket returns to the first page of the album every time you delete one, and you have to go back into the album to find the next one you want to delete!
Yes, yes, I know -- you can turn on "organize" and perform several functions: delete, move, and add titles to the pictures. That's helpful, and it does allow you to see all the pictures in the album on one screen by scrolling down -- but you can't do any of the other functions possible in the normal mode! You can't see the full-size version of the pictures or get their codes or edit them in any way.
Why the hell don't they fix it so that all this stuff can be done on one screen that shows all the jpegs in the album by scrolling down? It's ridiculous!
These are just a few examples of the many ways Photobucket definitely IS broken, Butch -- and it desperately needs fixing. The problem is, they aren't making the changes it needs! They actually have made a few improvements over the years, but mostly they just tinker around with it and make if different -- not better. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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