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STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE (1979)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come to think of it, there's a TNG episode called Force of Nature, in which the Enterprise crew learns that FTL travel might actually damage subspace!

The captain and crew discuss at length the serious nature of this detrimental effect on subspace, and how the absence of FTL travel would affect civilizations.

I think I'll ask Trekriffic to watch it with me. We've discussed sharing Trek episode occasionally on Monday's.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The aliens from ST:TMP.

Betelgeusians: Inhabitants of the star Betelgeuse who are seven-foot-tall humanoids who are descended from a race of leopard-like eagles. They have a claw & bone structure similar to a condor.

Arcturians: A race of clones from the densely populated Arcturus. They provide the backbone of the Federation Infantry. If required, they are able to create billions of new soldiers overnight.

Saurians: A race of lizard-like people who are very intelligent and make excellent officers. They are very strong physically and possess four hearts. They are able to breathe several different types of gasses, which makes them useful members of landing parties.

Kazarites: These are the Dr. Doolittles of the Federation of Planets who are able to communicate with animals telepathically. The Kazarites also have limited telekinetic powers and can teleport themselves mentally. They are ecologists who devote much of their time to the care of animals.

Zaranites: They cannot breathe oxygen and must use breathing masks & backpacks that supply them with the essential fluorine gas they breathe.

Aaamazzarites: They generate their clothing from their own mouths. In fact, everything on Aaamazzara, including furniture, is the produced bio-chemically, similar to the way bees make hives.

Rigellians: Descended from a race of saber-toothed turtles. They only have one gender and reproduce by laying eggs.

K'normians: A humanoid race with large foreheads. Their large brains gives them a superior appreciation of time and space.

Rhaandarites: A simple, gregarious people much better at taking orders than giving them. They are long-lived and reach maturity at around 150 or so.

Megarites: They live underwater, but the FOP developed a system of injections that allow them to survive on land for about a week. Their planet is made from jade.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things I learned from the History Channel's series The Center Seat: 55 Years of Star Trek.

Paramount Studio initially planned to launch a fourth TV network and wanted a brand new ST show as their flagship series.

Star Wars debuted in the summer of 1977 and was an enormous hit. ST people tried to convince Paramount that this indicated that there was a huge market for science fiction, and a ST film would be perfect.

Paramount felt that Star Wars was a one hit wonder and there would not be an audience for more science fiction movies. It wasn't until the premiere & success of Close Encounters of the Third Kind that Paramount thought, okay, maybe there is a market for a ST movie after all.

Harold Livingston wrote the script for a ST feature film titled IN Thy Image. Gene Roddenberry rewrote it. HL felt that Gene's rewrite was terrible and that Roddenberry could not write well at all. They would remain at each other's throats throughout the production of ST:TMP.

HL received a frantic phone call from producer Michael Eisner from Paris telling him that the script sent by HL was (bleep)!
Harold discovered it was not his original script but one that Gene had rewritten that was sent to Eisner.

Robert Wise was selected as the film director but found Gene's micromanaging & interference intolerable.

During the production of the movie Gene was abusing drugs. He was a prodigious drinker, and was smoking marijuana, using cocaine.

Robert Abel & his company was hired to create the special/visual effects. The optical house had done some marvelous visual TV commercials, but had never done a feature film before.

Abel & his team were way in over their head. After many weeks of working they only created a few minutes of visuals.
Director Wise was incensed and fired them immediately.

Famed FX artists Douglas Trumbull & John Dykstra took over under enormous pressure to meet the film's deadline.
They had crews working around the clock 24/7.

Leonard Nimoy thought that Wise was being poorly advised by people who knew nothing about Star Trek.

The script was constantly undergoing rewrites even as they were shooting the movie.

The film was a financial success for the studio, but not the mega-hit Paramount was looking for.

When they decided to produce a second ST movie there wasn't exactly a long list of directors jumping at the chance to do it.

Some did not want to do a ST film, some did not want to do a sequel, and some had no interest in doing a science fiction film. And other directors were simply unavailable.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A fine post, Mike.

It's really sad that politics and personal egos often derail the efforts of true cinematic artists who struggle to create fine science fiction. Sad

I'm just an aging sci-fi fan with a modest message board, but the concepts that our members and I have proposed are often far better than what we get out of Tinsel Town.

Sir, your contributions to All Sci-Fi are greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Douglas Trumbull developed ulcers while working on ST:TMP and trying to meet its release date.

Doug and his team were brought in after the first special effects company proved incompetent months into the production.

Doug and his people worked nearly around the clock for six months to finish the FX for the demanding schedule.

Doug had to be hospitalized after completing the production.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What this tells me is that the producers were trying to get the FX done "on the cheap" — so they started out with an unreliable company who blew the assignment, and then they went with Trumbull's team, who accepted because he and his people wanted the job so badly.

Unfortunately, they lacked the experience to know what they were getting into. Sad

Obviously the fault lies entirely with the producers for not properly investigating the qualifications of the FX teams they hired, just to ensure they were up to the job.

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Here's another look at the NX-01 refit. Beautiful. Very Happy




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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE (1979) Reply with quote

Maurice wrote:
In 2001 a Director's Edition, featuring a revised edit and some additional and replacement visual effects and a new sound mix was released on DVD, but it remains controversial amongst some fans as to how much it actually reflects Robert Wise's intentions and how much is George Lucas-like tampering by the people doing the new effects.

Having never been overly impressed with the theatrical release because of the way it abandoned the very thing that made TOS so good, I don't object to the changes the 2001 re-edit made.

The Original Series had a colorful, energetic, fun-loving nature that worked well with its imaginative and thought-provoking stories. The principle characters were young, energetic, and bold to the point of recklessness.

In contrast, the movie's sets and costume had muted colors, and the tone of the film was entirely too humorless. And, dare I see it — the actors not only looked old, they acted that way as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed STTMP when it first hit theaters. But then, at 14yrs old, I'd never seen a single episode of Trek and had nothing to compare it to.

I had a friend, at that time, who was a massive Trek fan and HATED the movie, which I didn't understand. The concept/plot was interesting and I thought the film did a good job immersing me in the Trek universe.

I loved the ships and the music, the costumes not so much but I didn't hate them. The characters all seemed fine to me, especially liked the look of the Klingons.

Once WOK came out, a local TV station finally started airing TOS, and I was hooked on Trek and understood how great the first film could have been.

I don't think Wise had an easy task dealing with the studio's indecisiveness, fan expectations, Roddenberry's "ideas" and Shatner and Nimoy's egos getting in the way.

I think the more recent version with the digital "finished effects" holds together much better than the theatrical version, but it isn't a bad film.

Not like STV, anyway Laughing

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