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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:40 pm Post subject: Robot Jox (1990) |
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This is one fine little movie, and it's a shame that Empire International Pictures went bankrupt during the production. Otherwise we might have had a few sequels.
However, it is marred by serious creative difference between screenwriter Joe Haldeman and director Joe Gordon, Haldeman tried to make the story more serious and scientifically accurate, but Gordon had other ideas.
Gordon later realized that Haldemen was "writing a movie for adults that children can enjoy", while Gordon had been "directing a movie for children that adults can enjoy."
David Allen created the fine (but few) stop motion scenes, and the music by Frédéric Talgorn is a real plus.
Robot Jox is the perfect second feature for Empire Pictures equally enjoyable sci-fi film from 1989, "Arena". However, even though "Robot Jox" is available on DVD and Blu-ray, "Arena" is still only available on (dare I say it?) VHS tape.  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: |
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David Allen used to say that he was responsible for the demise of Empire International.
He and his crew would film the effects out in the desert so he could use the light and the real backgrounds. He filmed until Empire ran out of money, then he would come back in and go back out when Empire got more money.
This took several years. One of the movies has no sound in the space scene.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Krel wrote: | One of the movies that has no sound in the space scene. |
Gee, all this time I thought that because they were being scientifically accurate. Turns out they just couldn't afford sounds!  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | Gee, all this time I thought that because they were being scientifically accurate. Turns out they just couldn't afford sounds!  |
They had to do without the sound, so they could afford the music for the scene.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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The DVD of this movie is highly recommended.
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I was surprised today when I saw that this thread didn't have any of the nice screen shots I made for the thread we lost when the 2007-2014 version of All Sci-Fi ceased to exist.
I'll save them for a future post. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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It's a shame that they didn't listen to screen writer Joe Haldeman. He's the author of the Hugo winning novel THE FOREVER WAR, a marvelous military space war story in the tradition of Heinlien's STARSHIP TROOPERS.
If you haven't read it yet pick it up! If you have read it....read it again!
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thinking Outside the "Plot"!
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The premise of this low-budget by enjoyable movie is that mankind has found a way to settle international disputes which is better than World Wars, but still not better than peaceful negotiations between nations.
Okay . . . let's at least give 'em credit for that.
But what if mankind suddenly found itself faced with common foe and had to put its own petty differences aside? What if alien invaders threatened Earth!
~ A Question for the Members: Would mankind be able to band together because of this new and terrible threat and combine our global technology so we could create an army of giant human-piloted robots to battle this alien invasion?
~ My Theory: Well, duh! Check out Pacific Rim if you doubt it!
Despite the fact that the concept has been done beautifully in the recent films about the Kaiju, I love the idea of a movie which depicts an army of human-made Robot Jox, standing in formation for miles and miles, all the way to the horizon — ready to launch against alien invades, both on the ground, in the air, and in outer space!
The idea that mankind has stopped using their robots to battle each other and has united to defeat the aliens would be terrific!
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I liked the movie. I'm a big fan of the Mechwarrior pc game. Currently playing the latest version 5. Also have 3d printed several Mechs. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Awesome!
The fact that we now have devices which can produce things like that is plumb flabbergasting! Damn, I LOVE living in the future! The present was kinda boring by comparison.
For example, here's what TVs looked like when I was growing up.
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But here's what they look like now.
I rest my case.  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Morbius Astral Engineer

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree with you, technology today affords lots of opportunities especially for the RC enthusiast. I made a nautilus submarine using solid-state relays and the entire sub works completely off of bilge pumps.
Also, I am still amazed that the technology to make a drone is available to the public. The heart of the drone system is what they call the controller, it contains an accelerometer, a barometer, and gyroscope, GPS and probably other things as well but it allows complete control of the drone.
Also, the motors are what they call brushless so the motors do not make any video interference because of sparking from the brushes. The motors are basically little AC motors controlled by an ESC (electronic speed control). I’ve been making drones for a while and have a few videos.
This was more of a pilot training exercise, but it does show the versatility of what you can put together for an inexpensive drone. However, it’s not easy to put one together unless your electronically adept to some degree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h12wQ3Aqyr4
The Jet Nautilus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCufoUFWfs
Drone, heavy lift with 2 cameras.
https://vimeo.com/447798191
This is another test video. I’m using two cameras on the falcon heavy lift drone and I wanted to compose a video using the two camera views.
I know that the top camera needs to be mounted higher at least above the props. So, this is my experimental video using two cameras on my latest heavy lift hexacopter. I’m still waiting to get OSD, a Skylark tiny OSD. But nobody seems to carry one, so I ordered it from Skylark in China. It takes forever.
Also, have worked on Robosapien V2 which all have a problem with bad wires creating shorts etc. Sometimes if the two main circuit boards are intact bad wires can be replaced and make the robot functional.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm certainly impressed with your 21st Century abilities, but I have to confess that you sort of lost me at — "Yes, I agree with you . . . "  _________________ ____________
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Morbius Astral Engineer

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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"We now have devices which can produce things like that is plumb flabbergasting"
Yes I agree, all kinds of new and exciting "things" that now we can use for fun etc. A few years ago, no such thing as a drone. Now they're everywhere. Hand tools now are battery operated, cordless etc. Lots of new stuff. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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This is still a favorite movie of mine, and I highly recommend it.
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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I agree that films showing all of humankind banding together to defeat a common foe can have thrilling moments, Bud.
However, after seeing how many Americans have chosen not to sanely respond to the pandemic, I find myself in serious doubt as to whether our planet would really unite against any alien invasion force.
We are too selfish and too divisive a species. We don't really want to look out for our fellow brothers or sisters.
And we refuse to be even slightly inconvenienced for our own good or the welfare of others.
Power and $$$ are our driving forces and Heaven help anyone who gets in the way.
Sadly, there could be a film or TV show about just such a response.
No, not like we see in movies such as "Independence Day,'' but a darker and tragic movie.
Aliens invade the Earth and humanity must fight battles on two fronts. The aliens of course, but also humans fighting one another.
Humans that welcome the aliens, humans that think we should expire as a species because we are evil, humans attempting to make deals with the aliens in order to survive and thrive, nations that refuse to fight hoping they'll somehow get by.
That would be the plot of my film...and I believe, it would be far more realistic than ID. Heartbreaking but true. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Pow wrote: | Aliens invade the Earth and humanity must fight battles on two fronts. The aliens of course, but also humans fighting one another.
Humans that welcome the aliens, humans that think we should expire as a species because we are evil, humans attempting to make deals with the aliens in order to survive and thrive, nations that refuse to fight hoping they'll somehow get by. |
I agree with, Mike, that America's actions during the pandemic have been shameful, and now our country is suffering more than any other country in world.
Concerning your idea for a movie where mankind does NOT unit against a common foe, the TV series V had elements of that, inspired by the tragic way Nazi Germany was corrupted by the Hitler regime.
And now we've got a president who delights in holding huge rallies so his loyal supporters can laugh at his jokes, cheer his insults to political opponents, boo when he mentions that scientist disagree with him, and foolishly believe his crap about how we've "turned the corner" on the pandemic.
Mike, I agree that, "we are too selfish and too divisive a species."  _________________ ____________
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