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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, these are great pictures, Butch. Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the best attributes of the movie is the depiction (in this case replacement) of Cinderella's castle. The official photos:


But these do not do it justice. There are other buildings and SFX that are just great!







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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new plan for Disneyland showing Star Wars Land, Discovery Bay and Tomorrowland.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for all those nice pictures of the Disney Tomorrowland opening, but wouldn't have been easier to just post the YouTube video so we could actaully see it in motion?

Like this.
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___ Walt Disney Pictures Intro Logo Tomorrowland


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Here is Raffey Cassidy (Athena) looked at a Spring 2018 Paris fashion show. Photo by Louis Vitton:


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Loved the trailer for TL when I first saw it.

Found the movie to be a disappointment. Fine cast, stupendous FX.

Somehow it just did not come together for me as a magical Disney movie. Lacked charm & inundated us with a visual effects finale that was loud, chaotic, messy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just imagine....If the ideals of the 50's and 60's had persisted to the present....?

What a future we could have had...….

Hopefully....A dream postponed.

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Gord Green wrote:
Hopefully....A dream postponed.

Well put, Gord! Cool
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A nice BTS video from YouTube, in two parts.


__ Tomorrowland Making of & Behind the Scenes (Part1/2)


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__ Tomorrowland Making of & Behind the Scenes (Part2/2)


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"Tomorrowland" is a dumpster fire of a move that lost the Mouse over $150,000,000.00 dollars. I read at the time of release that one of the reasons it bombed is that despite the trailers, the movie wasn't what people were expecting from a movie named "Tomorrowland". The movie is also surprisingly violent.

WARRNING! MASSIVE SPOILERS INCOMING. And it's going to be a long bumpy ride.

The movie is told in flashback to a group of kids.

In 1964, eleven year old Frank Walker travels to the New York World's Fair to show his somewhat working rocketpack in hopes of winning a prize. He is shot down by Dr. David Nix (Hugh Laurie) a condescending Scientist who asks Frank what good is the RP, and Frank being 11, replies fun. Dr. Nix does not recognize fun.

Frank is approached by a young girl named Athena (Raffey Cassidy), who gives Frank a pin and tells him to follow them, but not be seen. Frank follows Athena & Dr Nix to the It's A Small World Ride, and sneaks onto an empty boat (presumably arranged by Athena). On the ride, after having the pin LASER scanned, Frank is diverted to a secret section where there is a subway type car. Entering the car, a recorded message says to put on a helmet and brace for travel. The helmet is above Franks reach, but it turns out okay.

Frank exits the car into a fog. He encounters a worker robot that repairs his rocket pack, which is fortunate as a man startles Frank an he falls off the platform. Frank is struggling to put on his rocket pack as he plunges out of the fog...To see that he was on a tower that rose into the clouds. He dons the rocket pack, arrests his fall and flys around Tomorrowland, a metropolis of tomorrow, until he catches up with Athena and Dr. Nix.

This is the end of young Frank's story, except for some background later in the movie where you find out that Frank had a physiologically abusive Father.

The movie shifts to 2014 Florida where we meet optimistic 15 year old Casey Newton (Britt Robertson) who is committing sabotage of construction equipment on the space shuttle launch pad, which is to be demolished. Casey's Dad is a NASA engineer who is in danger of loosing his job after th pad is demolished.

Casey is one of those genius children, who despite having no training or education can fix or work on anything.

Casey comes back home after her crimes to the room she shares with her Brother. After she sneaks into her nice mid-century modern design home, an un-aged Athena plants a pin in her belongings after taking a hair from her motorcycle helmet, and keying the pin to her DNA.

The reason she shares a room with her brother is not given, except in the deleted scenes. Originally Casey was to be disaffected, but it came across as having given up, so new scenes were written. This wiped out the scenes of Casey's Mother (Imagine that! A Disney movie with a two parent family. Well that didn't last), and her divorced Uncle and his kids that are living with them, forcing Casey to share a room with her Brother.

On her next attempt at sabotage, Casey gets caught and thrown into the hoosegow. Her Dad gets her out after talking Homeland Security out of pressing charges (her actions probably didn't help his chances of future employment at NASA). On release she finds the pin in her belongings, and when she touches it, she finds herself in a wheat field, with Tomorrowland in the distance. When walking towards the city, she runs into a wall.

While riding home with her rightfully pissed-off Dad, she touches the pin and freaks out as she finds herself flying through a wheat field. Her Dad now suspects she is using non-prescription pharmaceuticals. She convinces her Dad to touch the pin, but nothing happens, as the pin is keyed to her DNA. Her Dad takes the pin.

Later that night she sneaks the pin back, takes her bicycle and rides toward Tomorrowland. In a field she touches the pin, finds herself in Tomorrowland, and goes on a tour. The pins power runs out as she is entering a rocketship, finding herself hip-deep in the lake. She's very lucky. She's in Florida, and the water very well could have had alligators, so she's lucky she only got wet, instead of eaten.

Casey's little Brother does research on the pin, and finds a memorabilia store in Texas that wants to buy one. She takes the bus to Texas and goes to the store, which is owned by a stereotypical geek couple.

They give her some background information about an organization name Ultra-Plus, but then want to know where she got the pin. They want to know if she got it from a little girl. But she doesn't know, and can't tell them despite, being offered thousands of dollars.

They don't believe her and things get violent, and the rayguns come out. Casey is saved by Athena who battles the couple, and tthey explode after being defeated, destroying the shop.

Casey and Athena escape in a car which Athena steals. She is no ordinary eleven year old. Casey wants to know who the couple was, an Athena explains that they were audio-animatronics. Casey doesn't understand, so Athena tell her they were robots . . . like her. But they were designed to recruit people. Case freaks and tries to escapes. Athena tries to explain, but is hit by a pickup truck. As the driver runs to Athena, Casey steals the truck.

This teen has a very credible streak of larceny.

Athena catches up, and convinces Casey to help her.

Back at the shop, the Fire Department leaves, and four Cops are waiting for the lab people. More robots show up and disintegrate the cops when they find one of the destroyed robot heads. It's a good thing the city street that just had a massive explosion was completely empty, or it would have been a bloodbath.

Athena drops Casey off at an adult Frank's (George Clooney) farm in New York State which is guarded by a holographic dog. A bitter Frank wants nothing to do with Casey and ignores her, but does tell her that the pin is a recruiting commercial.

Frank either left, or was exiled from Tomorrowland after living there for twenty years and has been back on Earth for thirty years.

Casey tricks Frank and locks him out of his house so she can exploare it. She finds some home movies of young Frank and Athena and a Nixie Tube countdown clock.

Frank gets back into his house, and he's royally pissed. She asks Frank what the countdown clock is for, and he tells her it is counting down to the end of the world. Casey refuses to believe this . . . and the clock slows, surprising Frank.

The killer robots show, up wanting Casey. Frank decides to save her. Frank's house has bobby traps, and a bathtub that turns into an escape capsule.

They meet Athena and decide to journey to Tomorrowland. Frank is surprised to find out that Athena has been on Earth and on the run for 25 years. Frank is still bitter towards Athena who didn't tell him she was a robot when he was young

Frank has a hidden teleporter that transports them to the Eiffel Tower. They knock out a guard and go to Eiffel's apartment, where Frank gives more information on Ultra-Plus, then activates a hidden machine.

The Eiffel Tower splits apart and a giant rocket rises from beneath the tower. They enter the rocket and prepare for liftoff just as the killer robots show up and disintegrate more people. When the rocket lifts off, a robot jumps onto the capsule and tries to break in.

No mention is given to the poor guard they left lying on the deck. Well, at least he was unconscious when he was incinerated by the rocket.

The rocket flies into space, turns around and blasts back towards Earth to gain the speed needed to cross the dimension barrier.

The capsule makes it to the Tomorrowland dimension, and does some damage to a building while floating down on it's parachutes.

They find a seemingly abandoned city in disrepair. Frank gives Athena a baseball size atomic bomb, which she stores in a cavity in her body.

Dr. Nix shows up in an airtrain with some guards. Dr. Nix has not aged, but he compliment Frank on his age. Franks says he should try it, but Nix says that he will keep drinking the shake every morning. The shake now comes in chocolate. So, Dr. Nix is not a robot, but what about the guards? That answer is in the deleted scenes.

Deleted Scene: A Guard asks Casey how things are on Earth. Casey asks how many people live in the empty city, and Nix says just enough. No mention is made of what happened to the tens of thousands of people that had lived there.

While flying through the city, Frank mentions that he remembered it being more green. Nix says that greenry is nice to look at, but they add nothing to the power. Franks asks Nix "Just how much power do you need David?" Nix replies that he really missed Frank, it's been years since anyone has called him a dictator.

They land at the base of the tower where a giant sphere is hovering in the air. This is a Tachyon Machine that Frank made to produce power and to provide easier communications with Earth. It also had an unintended function of showing the probable future.

Deleted scene: Earlier in the movie, there were reports of art thefts on Earth. At the base of the tower we see an open portal and men are stealing artworks. Nix explains that he is saving art and history from the apocalypse.

It is hinted that his invention is the reason Frank left Tomorrowland.

Frank tries to convince Nix that the future isn't fixed. They rise into the machine and Casey operates the machine, viewing the apocalypse. She refuses to believe it, and the apocalypse temporarily disappears. Frank tries to get Nix to believe, but he refuses. Casey says that the machine is feeding the images of the apocalypse to Earth, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy!

Frank realizes that Nix has been sending the images to Earth. Dr. Nix admits it, and monologues that he started doing it in hopes that people would reject it — but they didn't, and he has given up any hope he has for humanity. He's willing to let it die.

Nix opens a portal so he can send Casey, Frank, and Athena to an island to await the end. Watched by giant robots, Frank goes and shakes Nix's hand . . . and manipulates the lift to the machine.

As the lift rises, Frank and Nix start fighting. Athena throws the atom bomb to Casey and tells her to put it in the machine. Casey jumps on the lift as Athena jumps on the back of a giant robot and gains control of it.

Frank and Nix are fighting, falling through the portal. Athena is playing Rock' Em Sock'em Robots with the giant 'bot as Casey is trying to figure out how to arm the bomb. Athena knocks one robot through the portal, but only part of it makes it through. Casey starts seeing future images of how to arm the bomb, but also the lift dropping. Nix manages to recall the lift, but Casey has armed the bomb and throws it through the portal. Frank and Nix race back through the portal as the bomb goes off. The portal closes, but part of the frame falls on nix pinning him to the floor.

Athena sees a future image of Nix shooting Frank, and dives in front of Frank, taking the blast. Athena tells Frank to fly her up to the machine so she can activate her self-destruct device and destroy the machine.

Frank and Athena make their peace, and Frank drops her into the machine. Frank and Casey make their escape as the machine explodes and falls onto Dr. Nix.

The movie ends with Frank, Casey, and her family sending the new Audio-Animatronic children out to recruit "Dreamers".

Right, like that's' going to work. I see history repeating itself in Tomorrowland with another authoritarian gaining control after a few years. Dreamers are nice, but you also need practical people to make the system work.

For a movie named "Tomorrowland", very little of it takes place in Tomorrowland.

I can see why the movie bombed. It has great production values, good actors, but the story is a real downer. It's basically about people who have given up. Frank, Dr. Nix, the inhabitants of Tomorrowland, and humanity.

It has the bones of a good movie, but it was poorly structured.

The best part is from the DVD extras:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIpUu3wfos

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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David, I agree completely with your assessment of this film.

It desperately wanted to convey the same message of hope that Walt Disney dedicated his life to — which is simply that if we think big, be smart, and work together, we can make the world a beautiful place!

However, Walt did it by demonstrating how great life can be — especially in the Science Fact episodes on the Disneyland TV series, and his attractions in both theme parks.

Ironically, this movie tells audiences that even in a utopia like Tomorrowland, evil people will still doom our efforts to improve life! It was the exact WRONG way to say what the movie meant to say! Sad

I'm amazed the director Brad Bird thought that this "warning to mankind" would have a positive effect on human behavior! Stranger still, that stradedy didn't work on mankind in his movie, so why did it would think it work on mankind in the real world? roll:

The movie might have had the right effect on the audience if it had showed the utopioan "Tomorrowland" being completely successful (as it did in the early scenes), but then show it being threatened by an outside group of evil, greedy men.

The message would be that the Tomorrowland people were much stronger and smarter than their enemies, for the very same reason that allowed them to be so prosperous and successful.

One thing I did lik about the plot of this movie was idea of recruiting smart, imaginative people from our dimension, using the pins. It's a symbolic invitation for us in the real world to join the smart, imaginative people in our own lives, and work with them to make the future brighter.

YouTube has several videos that contains some of the deleted scenes you mentioned. Here's the link.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tomorrowland+


On that note, here's a 1.9 GB download of the movie from Archieve.org which I uploaded to All Sci-Fi's exclusive WeTransfer account.

Interested parties can download it to their computers and watch it again after seeing a few of the deleted scenes on YouTube. Perhaps the movie will make a bit more sense.
Very Happy

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Bless my wishy-washy soul, I've actually done an about-face on my opinion of Tomorrwland after I finally figured out several important plot elements that were confusing! Shocked

In my defense, some of my confusion was the movie's fault.

Here's an example. As Krel stated in his posts, Brad Bird deleted certain scenes and reshot them. But I watched those deleted scenes on my BD's special features, and they were much better than the scenes he reshot and spliced into the theatrical version. Rolling Eyes

If you have the BD, watch the deleted scenes first (several times) and then watch the theatrical version. Brad Bird screwed up his own movie with some of the changes he made. I was amazed by the difference the deleted scenes made after I watched them and then watched this movie again, keeping the original versions firmly in mind.

Suddenly I understood it . . . and loved it! Cool

But this didn't happen until I finally understood those key elements of the story I'd been so confused by. In fact, I had to watch the movie two more time — just a day apart.

First of all, I kept forgetting that Tomorrland (the city), was NOT in the future. It existed in the present — but in “another dimension” which was discovered by the members of Plus Ulra, a secret society comprised of the greatest minds throughout history.

The planet appears to be on a parallel Earth that has no humans other than the folks from Earth who went there several decades ago and built the super-hi-tech city.

How they managed to make all that scientific progress and build the futuristic architecture in just a few decades is, frankly, a bit hard to swallow. But I'm glad they did, so we'll let that slide . . .

Another puzzling aspect of the plot was the way the villain, David Nix, managed to take over the amazing futuristic city, reduce its population (somehow), and allow it to become shabby and largely inactive. Sad

In addition to this, Nix sent robot assassins to Earth who killed people, just so he could hide the existence of Tomorrowland! Shocked

Fortunately, I finally manged to unravel these mysteries during my third viewing of Tomorrwland.

The most import element I'd missed was that David Nix had decided mankind was (in his words) "savages" who would wreck Tomorrowland the same way we'd wrecked Earth if he allowed them to come there.

In Nix's opinion, mankind had lost all hope in ever achieving a prosperous future, and now we were resigned to an eventual armageddon that would destroy us.

Fortunately, our heroes (Frank Walker, Casey Newton, and Athena) discovered that a powerful device that was operating in Tomorrowland had been transmitting negative mental messages which affected mankind.

Ironically, David Nix had intended the messages as a dire warning to mankind. He wanted the message to scare us into NOT destroying ourselves . . . but these message actually just sapping the "hope" out of mankind, therefore causing a "self-fulfilling prophecy".

(See? I told you my confusion was partly the movie's fault!) Cool

Anyway, guys, I can now see what Brad Bird intended this movie to do. He wanted us to realize that we, too, have given up our hope for "a great big beautiful tomorrow" (as the song in The Carousel of Progress states).

But somehow the movie's message just wasn't as clear as Mr. Bird intended — an ironic parallel to the film's plot! Shocked

So, the movie was panned by critics and rejected by audiences. But I feel differently about it now — even though I had to struggle to get here!

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