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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tried to find a video of that would play, but I struck out. Kirk was on The Jack Benny Show in October of 1955, and it was indeed called "A Jam Session at Jack's", but the video doesn't include a 20K spoof, unfortunately. Sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6Fk5Jk7XY&t=1179s

But the live cigarette commercials are both funny and sad. Funny because they talk about how great the cigarettes taste, and how Lucky Strike tobacco is toasted to enhance the flavor. Rolling Eyes

And sad because of how hard they worked back then to get people addicted to those damn cigarettes. Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LEGO is proposing to make a Nautilus!!! Just go to https://ideas.lego.com/projects/59212 . When 10,000 votes are in it will be made!




The Lego model looks great, but the color is too red. Seems like it should be more like this. Still not overly attractive, but perhaps a little more accurate. (Or does it look too much like a candy bar?) Confused



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I bought the DVD of this movie for the first time over a year ago . . . but I've yet to watch it. Shocked

Tonight I checked with Amazon and found that the Blu-ray version was $44.95.

But before I buy that newer version, I'll watch my DVD to determine if the upgrade is worth the expense! Shocked

Meanwhile, I'd like to know what you folks think.

Should I shell out the cost of the Blu-ray and mail my DVD to some All Sci-Fi member who might by willing to share it with me in All Sci-Fi's Chatzy room? Very Happy

Or should I just watch by DVD and not try to talk any of you guys into watching it with me.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
The Lego model looks great, but the color is too red. Seems like it should be more like this. Still not overly attractive, but perhaps a little more accurate. (Or does it look too much like a candy bar?) Confused




Lego tends to try to re-use existing parts in existing colors as much as possible, so that reddish hue is probably the closest thing they have.

And your version IS a tad light chocolate. Wink

Looks like this proposal's been there for four years. There are a lot more pictures of it on this page (link).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking again at the Walt Disney comic books "The Adventures of Captain Nemo"that Butch posted (much appreciation for that Butch).

It struck me that had Disney ever done a prequel to "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" after their huge success with that film, the comics could have offered some terrific source material.

"Dr. Neptune's Sea Monsters" would have been excellent for an adaptation for a live action film aside from the poor title.

The plot involves genetically created giant sea creatures, plants, birds, a cat, and a host of other creatures kept in Neptune's laboratory.

All of those would have made perfect stop~motion animation creatures for the legendary Ray Harryhausen.

It would have been fantastic to see Disney and Harryhausen collaborate on a production together.

The plot would have had to have been fleshed out for a 2-hour film since the comic book was only a few pages.

Side Note } Ray would have been able to animate deadly plants, which was something he never was able to do during his long career.

For this production the WD Studio could reuse its marvelous Harper Goff designed model for the Nautilus submarine.
If they did a 'fold & hold' of the sets of the interior sets from the movie this would hold down the costs for a second film allowing Disney to lavish more of the budget on Ray's creatures,as well as Neptune's castle.

While the plot is similar to RH's own "Mysterious Island," making the scientist intending to do evil with his creations does take it in another direction.

As I wrote, the plot would have to be developed further and with more depth by writers.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:41 pm    Post subject: Wonderful Verne adaptation Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the reads and pics, great thread. I'll just add my small and simple review.

Watched this one recently and was delighted to find it stands the test of time as one of the better Disney live action films on the market. A quality take on Jules Verne's advanced story of subs and the atomic threat that was soon to become ever so prominent in the public conscious. This adaptation is a corking sci-fi adventure that benefits from great work from all involved.

The cast are just smashing, James Mason is the stand out as the barmy but intelligent protagonist Capt. Nemo, gruff and menacing with a dandy slice of camp into the proceedings. Then we have Kirk Douglas who out Popeye's Popeye, tough and rugged with a song and dance to help moral moving along, and even taking time out to befriend a seal to help jolly the film in heart. Peter Lorre is solid as ever, and Paul Lukas almost steals the show as the conflicted Professor Pierre Aronnax.

The sets are wonderful, the direction seamless, and the special effects make it hard to believe this was made back in the early 1950s, but ultimately its a story for adults and an adventure for the kids. Containing a giant squid sequence that sees Mason & Douglas fighting it to the death serves as proof positive that 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is an unadulterated joy. 9/10

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparison of Sizes.

The Albatross & The Nautilus:



The Nautilus & Historical Subs:



The Nautilus & Fictional Subs:



The Nautilus and The Albatross at night:



The 1st Mate's & Captain Nemo's sleeve ranks. Notice that the Captain appears to be a lieutenant commander, consistant with WW II practices and the 1st Mate appears to be a lieutenant, j.g. but upside down:



Nemo's Penny-Farthing bike:



Dueling pistols:



A souvenier from when Nemo was young. His first ship-in-a bottle:



Nemo's hot-rod:



Nemo's Porsche:



Soap-box derby cart and trailer:



Fantastic Voyage Nautilus:



Models of the USOS (United States Observation Submarine) Seaview and The Nautilus:



Nemo's bath on Vulcania (or is that Volcania?):



Base burner stoves that are called Nemo burners:



Nemo's version of the Flying Sub:



Completed concept for Templemer:



The original Andrew Probert painting for the CFQ cover:



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eadie wrote:
Nemo's hot-rod:



That could be a fun modeling project. It looks like those Tom Daniel show rods made by Monogram Models in the 1960s and '70s.

Eadie wrote:
Nemo's Porsche:



Apparently the windshield wrap, raker and clear hemispheres are removable if you actually want to drive the thing. Oh, and it's a Nissan.

Link: https://insidethemagic.net/2019/02/at-home-imagineering-nautilus-custom-car-wrap/


Eadie wrote:
Nemo's bath on Vulcania (or is that Volcania?):



Sorry, I don't see the connection. It just looks like a modern luxury bathroom.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that luxury bath on a wallpaper sit dedicated to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. It also had all the other large pictures and labelled the car a Porshe.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eadie wrote:
Completed concept for Templemer:



By gum, it does bear a striking resemblance!

Actually it's a design concept by a British designer named Phil Pauley. Sub Biosphere 2 (SBS2) is an awesome projects! Click on the picture below to read an article about.

The video below is only one minute long (with no sound) but it will still knock your socks off!
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Here's three-minute video with snazzy-jazzy music!

Self-Sustainable Underwater Living: Sub-Biosphere 2 by Phil Pauley


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish Disney had put the time/effort/money into making the 20K BluRay a commercial release with all the extras instead of a bare-bones release strictly from the Disney Movie Club. It deserves better treatment.
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New picture of one the sub ride ships undergoing servicing:


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Baby Nemo's first words"



What kind of league?



Starting this Friday A picture dump.
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Picture dump!



Some of theses may have been posted before or they are corrections or color versions.





In order for the Nautilus to be a fully functioning submarune she needs to be 308 feet long and 4 decks (excluding the Wheel House) [This is the only large drawing.]:



A brighter, more clear version of the novel used:



Building the exhibit:



Disneyland Posters:



On Sunday December 26, 1954 Ed Sullivan had his annual Christmas show. He introduced Walt Disney and they ta;lked about 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.:





Then Ned Land (Kirk Douglas) came out and sang A Whale of a Tale:



After singing he dedicated the song to the daughters of Ed's other major star Teresa Brewer, Susan (13) and Katherine (10) Monahan. Susan then stood up from the audience and, blushing, thanked Mr. Douglas and was invited up on the stage to kiss him on the cheek.:



Disney gave her this pre-production art:



and A Whale of a Tale 45rpm record:



Other pictures:





















































Bad joke. Is this how to tell if the toilet is in use?:







The plumbing is broken:













Continued In Next Post]

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[Continued from Previous Post]

A Biography of Captain Nemo:

Real Name — Dakkar

Aliases — Captain Nemo I

Gender — Male

Citizenship — Indian & British; the oceans

Affiliations — Nautilus I crew, Nautilus II crew, MI-5 (formerly), First Murray Group. Second Murray Group

Appearances
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume I
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume II
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume III: Century - 1910

Status — Presumed deceased, but still appears from time-to-time.

“ I am not what you call a civilized man! I have done with society entirely, for reasons which I alone have the right of appreciating. I do not therefore obey its laws … ”
—‘ Captain Nemo I, November 1867

Prince Dakkar (c.1830s - 1910), infamously known as Captain Nemo I, was a pirate and scientific genius who roamed the depths of the sea in his submarine, the Nautilus, which he helped build on Lincoln Island. Nemo tried to project a stern, controlled confidence, but he was driven by a thirst for vengeance, and wracked by remorse over the deaths of his crew. "Nemo" is Latin for "no one", and also (as νέμω) Greek for "I give what is due."

Nemo is Prince Dakkar, the Sikh son of the Raja of Bundelkund and Grandson of the Begum Malika-uz-Zamani, last wife of the Mughal Emperor Muhammad Shah. He was deeply antagonistic to the British Raj of India. Nemo had a European education, as he states that he had spent his youth studying and touring Europe.

The Begum Malika-uz-Zamani:



After the Sepoy Rebellion of 1857, in which he lost his family and his kingdom, he devoted himself to scientific research and develops an advanced submarine, the Nautilus. He and a crew of his followers cruise the seas, battling injustice, especially imperialism. They derive bullion from the various shipwrecks that dot the ocean, the most notable plundering ground being the Spanish wrecks in the Bay of Vigo.

He claims to have no interest in the affairs of the world outside the sea, but occasionally intervenes to aid the oppressed, giving salvaged treasure to Cretans revolting against their Turkish rulers, by saving (both physically and financially) an Indian pearl hunter who was the unfortunate victim of a diving accident, or by saving the castaways from drowning and covertly watching over the castaways in Lincoln Island.

In his first meeting with Professor Aronnax and his companions, the latter speak to him in French, English, Latin and German, all of which Nemo later reveals he is fluent in. Aronnax goes on to comment that Nemo's French was perfect and unaccented, and relies on his intuition and knowledge of ethnology to assess that he was from Southern latitudes. However, he was unable to determine the country of his origin. The Nautilus library and art collection reveal him to be familiar with European culture and arts. Further he was an accomplished player of the organ.

He is said to have died of old age in 1883, on board the Nautilus, at Dakkar Grotto on Lincoln Island in the South Pacific. The last rites were administered by Captain Cyrus Harding of the US Army of the Potomic, one of the castaways on the island who had been saved by the Captain himself, and the vessel then submerged in the waters of the grotto. The French authorities believed him dead ever since, but the truth was known by the British secret service.

Nemo would travel to Antartica in 1897 out of disappointment that his wife had given birth to a daughter, rather than a son as he had wanted, before she was murdered by the Brittish authorities (Dakkar was unaware that his daughter was smuggled out by a sympathetic Royal Navy Sergeant of Marines). Nemo returns eventually from Antartica, and is later graced by Campion Bond asking for Prince Dakkar to join the new League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nemo joins from excitement at the prospects of having another adventure.

Her Royal Highness 21 Janni Victoria Dakkar (Nemo's Daughter):



The Dakkar female family jewelry:



IronicallyNemo formed a friendship with British imperialist Allan Quatermain. Nemo and the League secure the stolen Cavorite from Dr. Fu Manchu [Chinese 傅满初] only to discover that ‘M’ is Professor Janes Moriarty. Nemo uses the rebuilt Albatross to go to Moriarty's flying machine, and works with Mr. Hyde with a machine pistol to handle Moriarty's Men.

Nemo is seen again the following year joining with the League in trying to combat the Martian Invasion. While the Nautilus does succesfully destroy several tripods, the traitorous Hawley Griffin, informs the Martians of the Nautilus. The Martians counter Nemo with a strange blood mixture that makes the Nautilus useless. (?)

Nemo abandons the League when he discovers that the British Government used Germ warfare to combat the Martians.

Nemo spends the rest of his days on Lincoln Island, raising his daughter Janni hoping that she will succeed him. Janni angrily rebukes the idea, remarking on his constant mistreatment of her and loathing her father's life. Nemo angrily states that she is a spoiled child that needs a spanking.

Nemo dies shortly after in 1910 bequeathing the Nautilus and it's crew to Janni. He has Ishmael place his skull on the Nautilus.

Personality

Captain Nemo is considered by most around him to be a madman, Mina Murray-Harker remarked that he was even worse than Mr. Hyde, who could be controlled at least. Murray recalls that her father and grandfather often had discussions on whether Captain Nemo or Napoleon Bonaparte was a greater scourge to Great Britain.

When he was sinking ships, he would go into a rage as he was lost in the memories of the Indian mutiny where his family were killed, but in the aftermath he would always be wracked with remorse over what he had done.

Nemo's reputation is mainly due to his sinking of British vessels, his motivation being to protect the ocean from humans as well as his revenge on the British Empire for their conquest of India. Nemo states that he is above judgment of humans for his many actions. Nemo's utter loathing of British runs deep as he compares the British women to dressing like whores. Nemo is even slightly misogynistic in general as he greatly resents his daughter's sex as he wanted a male heir, but he isn't truly disdainful for her. Despite his daughter's percieved ill treatment of her, Ishmael contends that Nemo loved Janni deeply.

Despite Nemo's piracy and vindictive attitude he has an immense love of adventure, it is because of this that he ironically agrees to aid the British government. He also forms a friendship with Allan Quatermain for their mutual love of adventure and similar personalities. Before that Quatermain argued with Mina about his trustworthiness, but hunter and the Captain formed a friendship.

Nemo's lifestyle and reputation would carry on to his daughter Janni and his great-grandson Jack Dakkar.

Inspiration

In Verne's works, Nemo is not mentioned to be of any distinct ethnicity or attire, until the Mysterious Island where his backstory is revealed. Nemo is not nearly so distinctively Indian in dress but in the era of the League he seems to have adopted his ethnic attire. Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill noted that this element was overlooked by most adaptations of the character, and they sought to stay true to Verne's image of the character as he "actually looked nothing like James Mason", who played the character in the 1954 film.

He looked even less like Herbert Lom who played Nemo in the 1961 Ray Harryhausen version of The Mysterious Island.

Nemo was sixty during the events of The Mysterious Island, which would make him considerably older during League. Also, according to the novel he died on October 15, 1868 but in the League The Mysterious Island affair happened "15 years ago", making it 1883. However there are some inherent chronological inconsistencies even in Vernes' novels.

Nemo's religious background is unclear, and could be either Hindu or Sikh.

Nemo is a dead ringer for Alan Moore right down to his usual frowny face

Appeareances In chronological order:

Nemo: River of Ghosts (1890 flashback)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume I
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume II
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume III: Century - 1910
Nemo: Heart of Ice (mentioned)
Nemo: The Roses of Berlin (mentioned)


Film version

Nemo appears in the critically-panned film adaptation of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003), played by Naseeruddin Shah. Due to what Kevin J. Anderson percieves as executive "political correctness", Nemo's less attractive qualities are less prominent. He is far more hospitable and less confrontational with his English associates in the League and his growing understanding of Allan Quatermain concludes much quicker than in the graphic novel. His religious background is more clear by his worship of a statue of Kali; which worries Mina since she's the Goddess of Death, but Quatermain said Nemo isn't the one they should worry about.

It should be noted that Ramakrishna, the real life Hindu Saint and Sage was also a worshipper of Kali. While she was the Goddess of Death, she is also the Mother Goddess thus making her the Goddess of both Birth and Death.

Remake

On January 6, 2009, Variety reported that a live-action remake titled 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: Captain Nemo was being planned with Joseph McGinty Nichol, known as "McG", attached to direct. The film serves as an origin story for the central character, Captain Nemo, as he builds his warship, the Nautilus. McG has remarked that it will be "much more in keeping with the spirit of the novel" than Richard Fleischer's film, in which it will reveal "what Aronnax is up to and the becoming of Captain Nemo, and how the man became at war with war itself." It was written by Bill Marsilli, with Justin Marks and Randall Wallace brought in to do rewrites. The film was to be produced by Sean Bailey with McG's Wonderland Sound and Vision.

McG once suggested that he wanted Will Smith for the Captain Nemo role, but he has reportedly turned down the part. As a second possible choice, McG had mentioned Sam Worthington, whom he worked with on Terminator Salvation, though they did not ever discuss it seriously. The project was later shelved in November 2009 with McG backing out of directing.

During the 2010 San Diego Comic-Con, director David Fincher announced plans of directing 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea for Walt Disney Pictures based on a script by Scott Z. Burns. While Fincher was wrapping up The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), it was speculated that 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea would enter principal photography by late 2012. In the meantime, Fincher began courting Brad Pitt to play the role of Ned Land while the film was kept on hold. However, in February 2013, it was announced that Pitt had officially turned down the role.

In April 2013, it was announced that the Australian government will provide a one-off incentive of $20 million in order to secure the production. Despite this, the film was put on hold again the following month due to complications in casting a lead. On July 17, 2013, Fincher dropped out of the film to direct the adaptation of Gone Girl. Fincher revealed in an interview that he left the film because he wanted Channing Tatum for Ned Land, but Disney wanted Chris Hemsworth for the role. Additionally, the money originally allocated for the production of this film was redirected towards Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales.

In February 2016, Disney announced that it was planning a live-action film titled Captain Nemo, with James Mangold directing. In February 26, 2020, it was reported that Mangold is no longer attached to the project.

Captain Nemo’s story is tied to several other novels: Captain Grant's Children[AKA In Search of the Castaways] (1867), Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea (1870), Mysterious Island (1874), The Begum’s Fortune (1879), Robur the Conqueror (1886) and The Secret Sea (1979).

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