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Alien vs Predator (2004)

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:47 pm    Post subject: Alien vs Predator (2004) Reply with quote




This one is a rip-roaring good time, and the story does something I really admire it for. It explains that the Aliens were created (or at least found and used) by the Predators as the "ultimate prey", and they've been creating them for challenging hunts here on Earth for thousands of years.

I like that idea because if allows me to have a little more respect for the Predators — they didn't just run around ripping the spines out of poor pitiful humans, they actually had the stones to take on a real challenge.

That made it easier for me to root for the Predator who teamed up with hot-babe-badass Sanaa Lathan as they battle the nasty aliens and try to keep them from overrunning the Earth.

Yep, this is a fun movie.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. I've seen this one a couple of times and would watch it again. It's a solid action film with relatively logical characters, unlike a certain other Alien prequel I won't mention. I'd rather see another sequel to this series than the stuff Ridley Scott's been doing.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, this is a rip-roaring good time. I was a bit doubtful when I heard this was being made, I ended up enjoying it very much. I even liked the sequel to it. Even though I was cheering for the Predator aliens, I did not want them to win either. It's not like they are out to kill the aliens for the higher purpose of ridding the galaxy of a threat, the Predators don't want their hunting ground spoiled and all their prey dead.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good threads like this one, about good movies like this one, need a trailer for us all to enjoy.

So, here ya go, folks! Very Happy
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IMDB has 81 trivia items. Here's the best of the bunch.
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In an interview, director Paul W.S. Anderson said that Arnold Schwarzenegger offered to reprise his role as Dutch Schaeffer (from Predator (1987)) at the end of this movie as a cameo, but only if he lost the election for California governor.

Note from me: I like this movie, and the climax is very exciting. But I can't quite figure out how Arnold's character would fit in, other than mayby having him show up at the end and say to Alexa Woods, "You survived. You're mine kinda woman." (Actually, that might have been pretty good.)

The first film in the "Alien" franchise to not feature Sigourney Weaver, who has said in interviews the idea of the crossover "sounded awful."

Note from me: I thought this movie did a great job of presenting the idea that the Predators were willing to hunt more dangerous prey than just puny humans, and they'd worked out a centuries-old system for producing Aliens for them to hunt!

I wouldn't minded it a bit if the plot had included the idea that the Aliens were genetically engineered by the Predators to be the ultimate prey!

And I'd take the idea one step further and reveal that the Aliens turned out to be so tough the the Predator race found it necessary to genetically engineer a Super-Predator race to exterminate the Aliens.

But the Super-Predators were designed to love hunting the Aliens so much that they killed off the somewhat less aggressive "normal" Predators so they could establish the continuing cycle of Predator vs Alien hunts we see in this movie.

I love the idea that the intelligent-but-aggressive Predator race was largely wiped out by the "Frankenstein monster" they created to deal with the uncontrollably dangerous prey which they themselves engineered!

Just FYI: This is why I'm puzzled by the folks who say we should just "leave our brains in the lobby and enjoy movies without thinking about them too much."

To me that's like leaving your erection in your pants when you girlfriend says she wants to make love! Very Happy

The alien queen was the most sophisticated animatronic ever built at the time. It has twice as many moving parts as the T-rex from Jurassic Park (1993).

Note from me: This little lady is beautiful, from the top of her shiny black head to the tips of razor sharp toes. For monster lovers, she's a Playboy Playmate! Very Happy

Several hundred actresses tested for the lead female. Sanaa Lathan was selected one week before filming began, and had to fly to Prague immediately.

Note from me: I was very impressed with Miss Lathan. She's not only gorgeous, she's a fine actress.

The Alien vs. Predator story crossed over virtually all forms of media before becoming a feature film. There was a successful comic book series, toy line, multiple video games, soundtrack (of the PC game) and even a trading card series.

Note from me: These are clear indications that fans of science fiction love both ideas and appreciate the potential of combining the concepts.

Ridley Scott hated the film, but James Cameron admitted that he enjoyed it and placed it third on his favorite of the Alien movies.

Note from me: I appreciate the creative intelligence of Ridley Scott, but if he didn't like this movie I suspect he and I have very different ideas of what a good story is.

The scene in which Weyland's team discovers the sacrificial chamber inside the pyramid was originally longer than seen in the theatrical cut. After Rousseau and Thomas discuss the hole in the corpse's chest, Sebastian finds a calcified facehugger. Lex and Sebastian then theorize as to what the creature's origin could be. The scene was restored in the movie's unrated (extended) cut.

Note from me: Hey, I'll have to get that extended cut. Might be pretty interesting! Very Happy

20th Century Fox wanted Roland Emmerich to direct the film back in the late 1990's, due to the box office success of Independence Day (1996), but Emmerich turned down the offer, choosing to work on other projects.

Note from me: Being a fan of Roland Emmerich I wouldn't have minded this, but I have no complaints with the film that was made.

Jerry Goldsmith and Alan Silvestri were planning to team up for the film's score but Goldsmith's battle with cancer (and eventual passing) prevented the pairing from occurring.

Note from me: If Jerry and Alan got along and wanted to collaborate, this might have been wonderful. But I can't think of examples when two great composers worked together successfully, except for the score the The Egyptian (1954), which is credited to both Bernard Herrmann and Alfred Newman.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alien vs Predator: Requiem was a piss-poor "sequel" (so-called) to this fine movie, and I disliked it intensely.

The final scene in AVP presented an intriguing idea — an alien which gestates inside a Predator and incorporates some of the host's physiology. Good screenwriters could have a field day with that idea! Very Happy

The story wouldn't necessarily have to take place aboard the Predator starship. The Alien/Predator hybrid might stay hidden until the ship reaches the Predators' destination before it was discovered.

Or the Predators might discover the hybrid soon after it bursts from the chest of the host, and they could turn back to Earth (for some reason) so that humans could be included in the story.

Perhaps the hybrid eludes the Predator crew and gets to an escape pod, then returns to Earth, making the story largely Earth-bound with human characters battling this horrible new threat.

Just a few ideas off the top of my noggin. Very Happy

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