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Destination Moon (1950)
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Eadie
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful!!!

Our copy is very yellowed with age.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was on the Starship Modeler Forum.

An Los Angeles TV show about the making of "Destination Moon": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-FH1yH7Y8o&feature=youtu.be

A site with a nice photo of the Luna, and a photo of the set model of the Luna: https://monsters4ever.com/post/103245879441/destination-moon-1950

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That "making of" video is wonderful! Shocked

It's 47 minutes long and it's an informal, energetic interview with the makers of the movie and the actors who appear in it — the latter of which appear in their spacesuits inside the actual set of the ship's interior, as if they were interrupted during the filming of the movie! Very Happy

None of it is actually scripted or rehearsed! The interviewers (several of them) just chat with the production people and the cast as if they'd suddenly dropped in during the filming of the movie! The interviewers wander around the sets and ask questions, and they're shown props from the movie, such as the model of the Luna — all in a very informal manner.

It's fascinating!

The event was covered by multiple live TV cameras, so we even see a large TV camera on a giant rig being moved in on the elevated set of the Luna's control room so it could cover the interviewers and the four actors! The interviewers have to climb up to join the actors on the raised set.









I've downloaded the video so I can enjoy it on my television, and I recommend that you guys do the same. This program should be Bonus Feature on a Blu-ray of this classic movie.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful reproduction of the Fawcett DESTINATION MOON comic! This was reprinted by Charlton Comics in their OUTER SPACE series leaving out the splash page and picture pages and back cover.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Kidd wrote:
An article I wrote on Destination Moon.

Update from Bud: The link no longer works.
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You should install the Wayback Machine plugin into your browser. If you get a 404 error or similar error it will automatically point you to any Wayback grabs of the page. like this one right here!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks, Maurice! I did just as you suggested. Very cool! Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Happy 50th Anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's several fine documentaries about Apollo 11, some longer than others.


Enjoy!
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_Apollo's Space Mission - Space Documentary 2019


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__ The Eagle Has Landed, The Flight of Apollo 11, 1969


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______ Walter Cronkite and the Apollo 11 landing


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thinking Outside the "Plot"!
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~ A Question for the Members: Having proven that a flight to the Moon could be done using the comparatively simple technology that was shown in this movie, would the success of America to reach the Moon ignite a different kind of Space Race than the one we saw in the 1960s?

~ My Theory: This new Space Race would involve efforts by the U.S. and the U.S.S.R to establish missile bases which could strike at their enemies on Earth. Remember the scene in the movie when General Thayer said their was no defense against an attack from the Moon?

(I just tossed this out to encourage a discussion. I hope I get one.) Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea of launching a missile attack against Earth targets from the Moon is frankly ridiculous. It'd be damn near impossible to fire a missile from the Moon and hit a specific Earth city or military base with any degree of accuracy. Furthermore, there'd be plenty of time to launch interceptor missiles to take out the incoming missile.

When Destination Moon was made, bomber aircraft were the only delivery system for nuclear weapons. Land-based and submarine-based ICBMs were still years in the future. The need to reach the moon first to prevent enemies from building missile bases there was credible to much of the lay public, however silly the idea was.

Certainly, by the time JFK made his famous 1961 speech about landing a man on the moon by the end of the decade, everyone knew there was no strategic necessity to beat the Soviets to the moon. It was all about national prestige — a space pissing contest. But the value of pissing contests shouldn’t be underestimated.
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You're dead right, of course, Scot. Very Happy

The statement made by General Thayer in Destination Moon was true only to the degree that back in 1950 a missile attack from the Moon would be possible IF the enemy launched a sizable barrage of missiles which were aimed at the United States — without attempting to hit precise targets!

And of course, in 1950 we had absolutely nothing like "interceptor missiles" that could stop such a massive attack on the U.S., especially when the missiles were coming straight down out of the sky, gaining velocity from the Earth's gravity, the way meteors do.

Hey, wouldn't it be funny if such a barrage entered the Earth's atmosphere traveling so fast that they simply burned up before they even reached the ground? Laughing

Therefore, as you correctly pointed out, today's military technology has drastically changed warfare, and the notion that an enemy nation with a base on the Moon could threaten us with a missiles attack which we couldn't defend ourselves from is ridiculous indeed! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Lunar base for missle attacks is ,of course, absurd. The best idea would be to have them in satelites in Earth orbit.

However, there WAS a real program established to plant a permanant base on the Moon in the late 50's, known as PROJECT HORIZON.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Popular Mechanics Magazine May 1950


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This movie ends with a titillating message which says —






If that doesn't beg for a sequel I don't know what does! But does the story seem to need a part two in this saga?

No, not really . . . but since the real space program that occurred during the very next decade included one amazing adventure in space after another, coming up with an exciting sequel about what America would do in the next few years after the Luna landed on the Moon and inspired the world (the way Apollo 11 did) would be fun!

The idea I had today.

At the time the Luna returns to Earth, the company owned by billionaire industrialist Jim Barnes is well equipped to build rocket ships with a proven design, and the engineers undoubtedly have improvements on the drawing boards already.

The U.S. government would do exactly what Jim Barnes predicted in the scene where the millionaires meet, when he said that his Moon mission was intended to prompt the government to initiate an ambitious spaced program.

In that meeting, General Thayer made this chilling statement.

"We are not the only ones who know the Moon can be reached. We are not the only ones planning to go there. The race is on, and we'd better win it, because . . . there is absolutely no way to stop and attack from outer space."

That, of course, is what the message at the end of Destination Moon means. (This is The End . . . of the Beginning).

It's referring to what General Thayer said. "The first country who can use the Moon for the launching of missiles . . . will control the earth! That, gentlemen, is the most important military fact of this century."

Here's the plot of the sequel I wish they'd made.

American intelligence learns that the Russians have been working on a plan to reach the Moon since the end of WW2, and they're much further along than we are. (This is consistent with the fact that the Russians orbited the first satellite in 1957.)

But they aren't just planning to land astronauts on the Moon. They're building a massive rocket which includes three V-2 type missiles arranged like strap-on boosters. The missiles serve two purposes: they actually do function as boosters during liftoff, even though they aren’t discarded after the ship leaves the atmosphere.






The three missiles attached to the large rockets are equipped with nuclear warheads, and the large rocket carries them all the way to the Moon, where they're refueled from a tank in the big rocket and then positioned for launch . . . back at the earth! Shocked

The narrator in the Woody Pecker cartoon actually states that "launching a rocket from the Moon to the earth is easier than going from the earth to the Moon. The V-2 rocket could do it today."



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The Russian's bold and villainous plan is to quickly establish the group of three missiles on the Moon’s surface, refuel them from the huge rocket which brought them there, and then demand that the United States withdraw it's troops from all it's military bases around the world.

If we refuse, the nuclear missiles will be launched at Washington and two other major U.S. cities!

When our government finds out about the plan, they realize that the only time when the large rocket and the three missiles would be vulnerable is the short period between the landing and the moment they’ve been refueled and set up for launch.

After that, the missiles can be launched at a moment's notice, and Washington would be destroy!

Jim Barnes’ company feverishly builds a rocket that can get to the Moon shortly after the Russian rocket lands. The new ship is armed with missiles that can destroy the Russian’s hastily establish launching site.






So, the climax is a race against time get the new ship to the Moon and destroy the Russian spacecraft before they're ready to launch. The movie ends with the spectacular destruction of the enemy ships before they can be used against us.


The End . . . of the Beginning . . . Part 2
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2023 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
The Russian's bold and villainous plan is to quickly establish the group of three missiles on the Moon’s surface, refuel them from the huge rocket which brought them there, and then demand that the United States withdraw it's troops from all it's military bases around the world.

If we refuse, the nuclear missiles will be launched at Washington and two other major U.S. cities!

When our government finds out about the plan, they realize that the only time when the large rocket and the three missiles would be vulnerable is the short period between the landing and the moment they’ve been refueled and set up for launch.

After that, the missiles can be launched at a moment's notice, and Washington would be destroyed!

If you have the capability of putting missiles on the Moon with which to attack Earth, you don't need to.

The Moon is ≈25 Earth diameters away. Any missiles launched from there would take a day or more to get to Earth. And we'd have B-36 "Peacemaker"ed Russia into a radioactive wasteland before the missiles got halfway here.

It'd be easier to park them at geostationary orbit, 1/10th of the distance to the moon. No need to escape a gravity well and you have a much greater chance for surprise.

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