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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:38 pm Post subject: I Am Legend (2007) |
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I love "The Omega Man" version of this story, but I don't care for "The Last Man on Earth" starring Vincent Price.
However, I've liked all of Will Smith's other sci-fi films (Men in Black I and II, Inderpendence Day, I, Robot).
So, I'm hoping this one will be good.
Thoughts, anyone?
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Bongopete Interstellar Explorer
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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It sucked.
It really bares no resemblance to the book or to 'Last Man on Earth' or 'The Omega Man' other than in all versions the main character is involved somehow in trying to find a cure before finally all comes to not where then he is left alone and besieged (except in this version).
The closest movie to the book was the Vincent Price 'The Last Man on Earth'. Certainly has quite a few problems but you would certainly recognize the film if you had read the novel. 'Omega Man' has some goofy bits, but in its own way for the most part is a bit more logical than 'I Am Legend'-the movie. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, you didn't like it. But the only criticism you make is that it was different from the book. Was it really a bad story in it's own right?
As fond as I am of The Omega Man (mostly just nostalgia, I think), this version seemed to present a powerful concept, told in an effective way.
When a movie strays from the book, it seems difficult for some people to just judge it on it's own merits. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still puzzled by Bongopete's negative reaction to this movie. I've seen The Last Man on Earth, which is supposed to be a faithful version of the book, but it didn't impress me very much. This version was, in it's own right, an imaginative and exciting story.
And Will Smith, as usual, rocks!
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Rick Space Ranger
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I am a huge fan of the book...and maybe that's the problem. I don't really like THE LAST MAN ON EARTH and I nearly despise THE OMEGA MAN.
The Will Smith version, though, I thought was going to be the one which finally got it right. Certainly they changed the story, but that's kind of okay if they get the feel and the mood right. And if they ultimately reach more or less the same point as the novella.
I thought it was just great for about, oh, 15 or 20 minutes. Then the critters appeared. Dreadful. I'm very much up and down about CGI in general, but I am dead cert positive that no major motion picture yet has been so totally ruined by unacceptable CG as this one.
I think I actually groaned when the first cartoon critter showed up. These are supposed to be former human beings, now become vampires, not goofy refugees from a five-year-old video game.
The movie went right out the window at that point and never recovered. Not even slightly.
What bugs me most about all three of these movies is the filmmakers inability to make a good movie when Matheson has done all the work for them. The book reads like a movie, fer cryin' out loud.
I've always felt that the filmmaker should just hand out copies of the paperback to the cast and crew and said, "here's our script, let's go."
But, no. Filmmakers feel the need to improve on the original material, even when the original material is a beautiful, complete, and instantly filmable blueprint.
This is an example in which folks should absolutely read the book, then avoid the movies at all costs. _________________ Man need not kneel before the angels,
Nor lie in death forever,
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Interesting comment, Rick. Now that you mention it, I too was bothered by the extreme alteration in appearance that the virus caused. If I'd read the book first, I'm sure I'd have been disappointing by what the movie did. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:52 am Post subject: |
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I must agree with Rick on all points. I, too, had read the book long before the movie's release. As I've said before (probably all too often), that's the best way to spoil a movie if there's any indication a movie will be adapted from the book. For my 2 cents, Vincent Price in The Last Man on Earth was closest to the mood of the book.
Smith's movie had to update the vampires to the currently trendy zombies (hyperactive variety). My reaction to the CGI characters was also, "Oh, no..." _________________ ...or not...
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There is video out there of makeup tests for the mutants, that is just fantastic! But for some reason they went with CGI toon mutants.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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By gum, these DO look great!
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______________ I Am Legend Makeup Test
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_I AM LEGEND Restored Art Unseen Makeup Tests
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bogmeister Galactic Fleet Vice Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:39 am Post subject: |
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3rd version of the Richard Matheson novel; the previous ones were The Omega Man in 1971 starring Charlton Heston and The Last Man on Earth in 1964 with Vincent Price.
In this one, Will Smith takes on the role of the lone survivor of a worldwide plague, coming about from a mutated virus. Of course, he's not really the lone survivor; and I'm not talking about the cartoon-like monsters with which he shares the city — no, I'm skipping all the way to the end when we see that there are many survivors in other pockets outside the city, so Smith's role is undone at this point; he's simply a poor fool who wandered around an empty city, thinking he's alone.
There are plot points that don't add up very well to me. Smith as Neville has apparent natural immunity — this would mean there are plenty of other people who would have this immunity — on the order of at least 3% to 5% of the population. It can't be just him.
Yet during most of the film he behaves (and the audience is made to think) that he is the lone survivor other than those mutated into monsters.
He has a dog companion in this film, unlike the previous versions. Though losing such a friend would impress on us his now extreme loneliness, it's less effective for the first half of the film in comparison to the lonely plight of the last man in the previous film versions, or the version in the novel.
Having this great 'man's best friend' by his side for the first couple of acts takes away most of that feeling of solitude which the other versions are best known for and which make them singular film experiences.
Still, the empty streets of New York City, becoming already overgrown with intruding vegetation three years after the holocaust, the occasional wild animal — these lend a poignant if disquieting allure to the proceedings.
Unfortunately, modern film-making always seems to attach chaotic action scenes to even such quietly provocative fare — Neville is soon seen chasing after some potential dinner and it's an imitation of the standard car chase scenes in other standard films of this era.
It gets worse later — the mutated humans are little more than video game creations, bouncing off the architecture with no weight to their presence. They are even named "Dark Seekers" — typical monsters from the video game universes, strictly for the teens and pre-teens.
BoG's Score: 6.5 out of 10
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johnnybear Mission Specialist
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First I heard they were going to re-release this film with the different ending, then I heard it was in aid of doing a second film and then I heard nuthin...
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Hey, let's really piss off Russia and the oil producing countries by going all electric with your vehicles! _________________ ____________
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Captain Starlight Solar Explorer
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Even though I love The Omega Man, I enjoyed this movie much more because it presented a much more intelligent story than the original movie about zombie survivors, or the Heston version about religious fanatics ! I prefer a more pure science fiction story. This one gave us that. And the baseless complains about the look of the GCI creatures are trivial. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bogmeister's offers some of the same objections to the movie as Bongopete, Rick, and orzel-w. But Bogmeister is mistaken about one criticism he makes.
Bogmeister wrote: | Of course, he's not really the lone survivor; and I'm not talking about the cartoon-like monsters with which he shares the city — no, I'm skipping all the way to the end when we see that there are many survivors in other pockets outside the city, so Smith's role is undone at this point; he's simply a poor fool who wandered around an empty city, thinking he's alone.
There are plot points that don't add up very well to me. Smith as Neville has apparent natural immunity — this would mean there are plenty of other people who would have this immunity — on the order of at least 3% to 5% of the population. It can't be just him. |
The film goes to great lengths to make it clear that Neville is in the city to capture plague victims and attempt to develop a serum to cure them. He could make a cure using anyone who's blood has the natural immunity, such as the two survivors he meets and lives with for a fair chunk of the movie.
Bogmeister's makes no mention of these key elements in the plot. He seems to think that Will Smith's character is staying in the mutant-infested city for no logical reason. And yet this movie is about a brave man who endangers himself and ultimately sacrifices his life to provide a cure for humanity.
I was surprised that Bogmeister — who usually understands and appreciates every nuance of a movie's plot — let the most import elements sail right over his head.
Wikipedia offers a description of the director's cut alternate ending.
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During the lab attack, the alpha male makes a butterfly-shaped crack while attempting to break through the glass to the laboratory. Neville realizes that the alpha male is identifying the female which he was experimenting on by her butterfly tattoo and that it wants her back.
Neville puts his gun down and returns the female. Neville and the alpha male stare each other down as Neville apologizes to the latter by giving him a tube of the cure. The alpha male accepts it and the Darkseekers leave.
Shocked, Neville looks over the pictures of his numerous test subjects and the implications of his research methods begin to dawn on him. Neville, Anna, and Ethan then drive to the survivors' camp in Vermont with the antidote.
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I just watched the videos I posted below, and this is a truly remarkable scene! It establishes that the Darkseekers are intelligent, despite their savage nature. Wikipedia also states that this ending was more in line with the novel, which might please the folks who revile the theatrical version because it made changes.
I read the Wikipedia summary of the novel's plot, and frankly Richard Matheson's premises — with bodies rising from the dead and the main character using garlic and crucifixes to combat them — has zero appeal for me.
I want science fiction, not Gothic horror — and as far as I'm concerned this movie "fixes" this flawed story.
My apologies to the folks who disliked this movie because it didn't follow the novel, but I'm surprised they weren't able to enjoy an altered version which adopted a much more realistic and scientific premise.
To be honest, that sounds a bit like somebody comparing apples and oranges, and then complaining because the oranges don't look and taste like the apples!
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Why not adjust the expectations of your taste buds and enjoy both of those delicious fruits?
This movie presents an intelligent, thought-provoking tale, based on scientific principles. Frankly I like that much better than dead bodies that rise up and become vampires! And I can't help but wonder how the fans who love the novel (but hate movie) would feel if the novel had really sucked.
Would that have caused those same folks to LIKE this movie? If so — why? It's the same movie, so why would their opinion of it change? Why would a good book cause people to dislike a good movie just because it was not the same exact story?
Hell, that's a two-for-one deal! You get a good book and a good movie, but they aren't exactly the same . . . because they would be boring!
I apologize for any-and-all offensive remarks, but there's a good reason why this board is called All Sci-Fi. It's pretty much a No Vampires & No Undead Bodies Zone.
Amazingly enough, I didn't even KNOW there was an alternate ending for this movie, even though I've had the "special edition 2-disc set" in my DVD racks for years! The second disc only says "Disc 2", so all this time I thought it was just special features!
As for the CGI looking cartoonish . . . I beg to differ, folks.
I guess being an artist makes me see CGI as "artwork" instead of "fake reality". I love the classic matte paintings because the DO look like paintings, not because they look 'like a photograph" (which they certainly don't, of course).
In this case, the CGI is very effective in creating these hideous mutants, and I just don't understand why the folks who criticize it so harshly don't appreciate how skillfully the characters are rendered, and how effective their acting was, especially in that alternate ending.
Watch the videos below and you'll see what I mean.
_____________ I Am Legend - Alternate Ending
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_____________ I Am Legend Ending Explained
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