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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud, I think from the context that they mean a "bubble machine". That is a machine that makes soap bubbles and blows them out en mass.

Placed in the aft in a rocket tube a stream of soap bubbles could stream out behind it as it moved down the street during a parade.

At least that's how I understood the description.
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Several comments from people on other sites who remembered seeing it in parades mentioned that it had a "bubblegum machine" in the rear. I'm not sure what it did.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, here's another Sci-Fi dream from the frantic 50's!

''In 1959 the Kraft food company held a contest. Advertised far and wide in comic books and newspapers, kids were offered the opportunity to win space-themed prizes. Just send in a copy of the ad and an empty bag of Kraft marshmallows and you could win any number of goodies. ''

''There were telescopes, "moon cars," toy missile launchers, spaceship model kits, and giant Hammond space maps. But the real treat was the grand prize: an actual spaceship simulator built by an actual space-tech company that could fit you and three of your friends!''



All you had to do was clip the entry blank, and send in your suggestion for the name of the spaceship along with a bag of Kraft marshmallows.

I really didn't care for marshmallows.

I was more of a caramel kind of guy.

But I asked my mom to buy a bag every week and gagged them down while sending in a pile of entries.

The ad even had some suggestions for names like Moon Rocket or Buddy, though the ad assured kids that they could think of even better ones.

I went through the list. Polaris 2, Space Eagle, Robert E Lee, Thunderchild, Space Hammer.

From the 1959 ad:


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You will be the envy of every boy and girl in America — if you win this Aerojet-General space-trainer giant! So realistic, it almost seems you could fly it to the moon! Just give it the winning name, it's yours!

Sure, the telescope or even the space map might be cool to win. But everyone wanted that life-size space ship!

''The fact that is was manufactured by Aerojet, the same company that was working on actual rockets for NASA, made it all the more cool.''

And it not only looked cool, it was mounted on hydralic gimals like an aircraft simulator and you could REALLY feel what spaceflight felt like! It reminded me of a Ray Bradbury story where an old Italian junkman bought a simulator rocket and took his family on a trip to Mars!



The simulator was built and first went on tour in 1959 before being given away in the contest.



Below, a notice that the simulator was coming to the Oakland area from the September 10, 1959 Oakland Tribune.



"The Kraft simulator came complete with space suits and helmets based on authentic equipment," according to Patrick Lucanio and Gary Coville in the book 1950s Rocketman TV Series and Their Fans: Cadets, Rangers, and Junior Space Men.

This wasn't some toy, Kraft promised. This was the real deal. Or at least as close to the real deal as any kid could get at the time.''

Oh God----Did I long to win this thing!

The winner was reportedly a young girl from a suburb of St. Louis, Missouri.

''Kids could sit behind their own control panels, twisting knobs and pushing buttons, while they watched a movie being projected in front of them from the nose cone of the simulator.''



''The young winner donated it to her elementary school before it was moved to the lawn of the Missouri Department of Mental Health, according to the book Space Patrol by Jean-Noel Bassior. But the simulator didn't survive for too long after that.''

''Amidst the Cold War fears of the 1960s, some thought the look of a giant rocket gave a bad impression in front of a professional building. It appeared to some people more like a ballistic missile than an astronaut's vessel for space-faring. The hospital administration staff had the simulator destroyed sometime between the late 60s and the early 1970s.''



Kraft's Aeroject spaceship simulator is long dead and buried.

''But the dreams of space travel live on for millions of kids around the world.''

''Let's just hope that all those adults making promises about vacations in space can keep their promises this time. I'm not holding my breath.''

''Alas, the sad end to a decade of young Sci-Fi enthusiast's dreams!''

If only I had won it!!!

It would still be in my back yard to this day!




(Notes in quotes are gathered from various resources.)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the SPACE PATROL thread in 50's TV catagory I wrote about the 50's Space Patrol "rocketship giveaway" contest, and I was inspired to check out a couple of other full size 50's spaceships.



In the mid-west Silvercup Bread Co. was a prime sponsor of the ROCKY JONES, SPACE RANGER program. They went about creating a touring spaceship attraction to follow up on the success of the one done by Ralston for Space Patrol.



The idea to construct a "life-sized" rocket to help promote Rocky Jones and Silvercup Bread was developed by executives of the Detroit-based Gordon Baking Company during the summer of 1954.







The rocket took three months to build at Gordon's Chicago truck shop where they repaired and maintained their delivery trucks. The tube frame was built specifically to be attached to an International R-185 Roadliner truck that would be used to tow the ship around to various publicity events and state fairs across the Midwest.



The Silvercup Rocket made its debut at the Michigan State Fair on September 3, 1954 (although the rocket is not mentioned in the 1954 program). During the run of the State Fair that year (9/3-9/12/1954) it is estimated that the ship received 100,000 visitors.






A uniformed Space Ranger attended the rocket and gave tours. Items inside the rocket included an interplanetary radio that could receive (recorded) messages from Rocky Jones, an interplanetary TV that could also contact Rocky (via a rear projected sound film on the screen), cockpit levers that made a jet engine sound when pulled or made the sound of space guns, bunk beds, oxygen tanks and a map of outer space.



As a reminder of who sponsored the rocket, kids were given a miniature loaf of Silvercup bread when they exited the rocket along with a card..



The rocket fell into ruin after a few years until it was found by a resourceful fan who purchased the hulk and is working to restore it to it's former glory!



Further information may be found on these sites :


https://www.mst3ktemple.com/silvercup_rocket.html

http://www.solarguard.com/silvercuprk01.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few other incarnations of the RALSTON ROCKET.

In the 50's every shopping plaza had some "ride on" amusements plugged in on the outside to keep the "kiddies'' busy while mom and dad were shopping.

There were lots of horses (Westerns were big!) but the best were the SPACE PATROL mini rockets. You could feel like you were a fighter escort for the bigger TERRA 5 for a minute or so for the price of one thin dime!





There are also some models of the ROCKET that fans have made. (I haven't found any commercial versions.)





One of the greatest premiums Ralston had was the ROCKET COCKPIT. It was a cardstock printed kit that you had to cut out and assemble, but it was a Space Patroler's dream!





For only a quarter you could sit at the command of your own TERRA 5!

There were lots of other toys and premiums, helmets, periscopes,Martian Totem Heads, flashlights and ray guns! I'll explore some of those in future posts.

"CLEAR SKIES, SPACEMAN!''
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord Green wrote:
Bud, I think from the context that they mean a "bubble machine". That is a machine that makes soap bubbles and blows them out en mass.

Oh boy, do I feel like a bubble-brained idiot! That's obviously what the comments I read actually meant . . . and they probably said "bubble machine" on the sites I got my dumb the idea from!

The comments by the people who said they'd ridden on the float mentioned they'd passed out candy to the crowd, so I got the wrong idea. Silly me! Rolling Eyes

Thanks for straightening me out!

On a more intelligent note, I discovered today that an organization called Aircraft & Space Artifacts at the Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum (aka Air Zoo) has acquired the surviving components of the Silvercup Rocket and are working to restore it to the original 1950s condition! Very Happy

The Air Zoo (click on the link), is obviously an awesome place, and they deserve all the support we can give them! With that in mind, I sent this email message shown below to Greg Ward at gward@airzoo.org.

I urge All Sci-Fi's members to encourage Mr. Ward's effort to preserve the history of classic science fiction by sending him an friendly message as well.
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Mr. Ward,

My ten-year-old message board, All Sci-Fi, is devoted to science fiction in all forms, and we've recently created a discussion thread (see link below) devoted to the great "touring rockets" like the Silvercup Rocket, the Ralston Rocket, and several others.

The members who have contributed to this interesting discussion with info and pictures have learned that the Silvercup Rocket is the only one which has survived and is actually being restored! This is great news for sci-fi fans who grew up in the 1950s.

We want to thank Air Zoo for rescuing this marvelous treasure of the Golden Age of science fiction, and we want to offer our help by spreading the word concerning your efforts to fund this worthy project! Please keep us updated on your progress and we'll pass this information on through All Sci-Fi.

We hope you'll visit our site at http://www.allsci-fi.us/phpbb/index.php and enjoy the discussion we've created about the "touring rockets" like the Silvercup Rocket at this thread — http://www.allsci-fi.us/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4321&start=0 — which includes a wealth of information concerning your own efforts to restore the Rocky Jones promotional rocket!

Again, we greatly appreciate your efforts, and we look forward to making financial contributions to this project as soon as they become available.

Bud Brewster — site administrator of All Sci-fi

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This picture purports to show the Luer Rocket in a toy museum---



But at a closer look it doesn't resemble that rocket at all. It has an open cockpit on the top and isn't quite the same shape. Could this be another "lost" rocket of the 50's?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did a Google image search and found the website, the Space Age Museum in Connecticutt. Here's another picture of the barn with all the interesting items shown in your other picture.






I thought at first the mystery object might be an F104 Starfighter, but the tail and fuselage don't look right in several ways.





However, the website offers this picture in the "exhibits" section, a Douglas Skyrocket D-558-2, and THAT is what we see in the barn!





The caption with the picture says this:

Vintage Postcard showing Static Test Model of Douglas Skyrocket D-558-2 in Schoolyard at Walt Disney Elementary School in Levittown, PA (circa 1965)

Imagine being a student at Walt Disney Elementary, and THIS is part of the playground equipment.

No, I'm serious, guys! Notice the swing set a short distance to the right . . . and the FOUR kids playing under the aircraft! Shocked

This "space age" aircraft is the rocket plane whose design was used for Captain Midnight's beloved Silver Dart!








However, the Space Age Museum does have the Luer Rocket (I've decided to omit the word "meat" from now on. Rolling Eyes), as seen below.





Not exactly the happy picture we'd like to see of the Luer Rocket in a shop undergoing restoration, but at least its owned by someone who respects it, instead of being in a weed-grown junkyard, slowly rusting away.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great research COMMANDER!

With the wings removed it does look more like a rocket than a plane!

The Navy gave out on loan a number of decommissioned aircraft for display at schools and Air Museums in the late 50's early 60's. A local school in Tonnawanda NY had (And still has!) a Grumman F9F-8 Cougar on display.



When I was a kid we'd ride our bikes to it and play on it. At that time you could climb up on it over the wings and look into the cockpit through the canopy. Supposedly, some kid got the canopy open and got stuck inside. The police and fire dept. had to come and get him out!

After that the canopy was replaced with a similarly shaped metal cowl welded to the body of the plane and a chain link fence was put around it. Look but don't touch! Heck, touching was the best part! This picture isn't the actual one we had. It's from an air museum in Texas, but it's the spitting image of the one I've described.



The Cougar in Tonnawanda is still there today.....just for show!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By God, I spent hours today in a fruitless effort to find just on damn photograph of happy, sci-fi lovin' American kids lined up outside the Kraft Aerojet Training Space Ship!

This ad's artwork makes it look like the greatest thing since Ricky Walker won the Ralston Rocket! Shocked






Unfortunately I failed completely! Sad

Other than the pathetic shot of that poor thing inside chain link fence near the school it ended up at, I couldn't find one single shot of the exterior, much less a picture of the interior!

This is an outrage, people! That wonderful machine was on display all over the country, and then it was given away to some ungrateful girl who promptly donated it to her elementary school! Sad

And yet we wonder why statistics show that girls don't do well in science! Rolling Eyes

The closest I came to anything new and interesting to post on this fascinating thread was this Thanksgiving Day Parade float. I mean, it ain't bad . . . but it's no flight simulator for aspiring young astronauts!

Well anyway, for what it's worth, here ya go . . . Sad




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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only picture I've seen of kids lining up to see the Kraft Rocket is this grainy one from a newspaper.



But there must be some others somewhere.

Got to keep looking!

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Gord Green wrote:
The only picture I've seen of kids lining up to see the Kraft Rocket is this grainy one from a newspaper.

But there must be some others somewhere. Got to keep looking!

I hope you're right. This is bugging me somethin' terrible! Shocked

But while I desperately searching for dazzling images of the Kraft Rocket's inner secrets, I might as will post the odd items I run across, like the one below.

I have no info about this photo, other than the suspicion that it isn't a "touring rocket" and that it might be located in San Francisco. Something about background seems to suggest that. Confused






This is either a very large lawn dart or a very expensive mistake the government made during a missile test.


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This is a silver cocktail shaker. I want one. My reasons aren't entirely based on the fact that its a rocket. Let's just say it's been a long day. (* hic * )


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My search for the elusive Kraft Rocket continues . . . Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I blew it. I was going to say it was an airplane with the wings removed, but you guys are way ahead of me.

Here is a story from I09.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-at-the-lost-world-of-supermarket-spaceships-1682349450
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There was one more "Win a Spaceship Contest" that grabbed the attention of every red blooded spaceman that occurred in 1967.

I think I first saw the ad for the Revell Gemini Capsule Contest in BOYS LIFE MAGAZINE , but I'm pretty sure it was also in a lot of comic books and model making magazines at the time.

Here's the ad :



First prize was a genuine mockup of a Gemini space capsule.

The only thing was......You didn't get to keep it!

BUMMER!

You had to donate it to a museum or other public institution!

According to the Comic Coverage site who did a "Where is it now" search---

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2009/01/the-gemini-spacecraft-mystery-new-details.html


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Ms. Joyce Collier of the Revell company's sales department, was gracious enough to do some digging. Here's what she had to say:

Dear Mark,

I spoke to a man by the name of Howard Reider. Howard was the man who brought this idea to life. In 1967, he was the PR & Marketing Manager for Revell. He was very sorry, but had zero information on who won the prize. His best suggestion would be to look in local papers in Oregon or possibly Boys Life Magazine archives as the prize was donated by a winner to a local museum. Possibly, the museum in Oregon has a file on this and the boy that won.

To confirm for all, this was not a model. This was an actual replica that was produced by McDonald Douglas. The capsule had to be shipped via railroad direct to the museum. The prize was awarded via a sweepstakes type entry, in order to win; the winner had to agree that they would donate to a local museum for two reasons, (1) So that others may enjoy and (2) Because it had to be shipped via railroad direct to the donation site.

A little more trivia for you, the cost of building this kit was $5,000. In 1967 $5,000 was unheard for any type of prize. Plus the additional model kits that the kid won. At least the kid got to keep all the model kits as he watched his beloved capsule given away. There were numerous glitches along the way in production. At the last minute McDonald Douglas said they would not provide the capsule. However, after seeing all the press etc, they some how found a way to complete the project and deliver to the museum.
Regards,

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It was donated to the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry — where it still is to this day.

But I think she's wrong about the $5,000 cost. The clipping (At the end of this post) cites the cost as $60,000.

According to the Gizmodo site :

http://io9.gizmodo.com/5728445/completely-ridiculous-1960s-sweepstakes-offered-gemini-spacecraft-as-grand-prize

The below advertisement ran in a February 1967 issue of Model Airplane News. Here's the description of the grand prize:




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No put-on. This is for real — the wildest, way out prize ever awarded in any contest: a 19-foot-prototype of the famed NASA spacecraft. Your Gemini capsule is just like the original. There's a detachable hatch, equipment section, and retro-fire package. Accurate from the ground up! When you win Gemini you'll be at the airport when it arrives in a "Flying Guppy" Aero Spacelines plane. Your name and picture will be in newspapers and magazines all over the country.

How will it feel to present your spacecraft to your city for a park or museum? Famous, that's how. There's more. As the grand prize winner, you'll receive a professional Vox "Serenader" guitar — plus, every Revell Model Kit! Sounds great
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Here's a couple of pictures of it at the museum.





I would have tried someway to keep it !!!

As an addendum; here's a newspaper clipping of the winners donation of the capsule....



The young man's name was Robbie Hanshaw, 13
years old.

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bulldogtrekker wrote:
Here is a story from I09.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-at-the-lost-world-of-supermarket-spaceships-1682349450

Magnificent article, BDT! I really enjoyed it. Thanks! Very Happy

Gord, you did a fine job with your post about the young man who won a piece of NASA (for a little while). I'll bet the day he received his prize was one he'll never forgot.

Good job! Cool

I'm not sure if the link to the site below has already been posted on this thread, but in case it hasn't, here's a great site devoted to Space Patrol.




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Today I spent a few hours trying to find out more about what was inside the Luer Rocket, preferably in the form of some nice pictures.

Unfortunately I wasn't successful . . . but I did find a few sites that provided first-hand descriptions of what the Luer Rocket's interior had to offer.

This first description comes from Steve LaVigne, who (along with Mike LaFlash) owned the rocket for twenty years after they spotted the abandoned derelict in north-central Arizona, back in 1984. They went inside, but of course the interior of the rocket was in bad shape, and they took no pictures of it.

Their site, LuerRocket.com, is billed as the "official Luer Rocket website", but frankly it just seems like an abandoned project which the administrators never finished and haven't updated in years.

However, they do provide this very encouraging description of what they saw the first time the found the abandoned rocket in a field and went inside.






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The inside is really something! Up in front there is a big movie screen and a whole pile of old fashioned knobs and dials. There is also school bus type seats to hold about 24 adventurers inside. The interior is made of light blue plywood with a brownish red trim. There is a big old air conditioner in the back in the bottom of the back wall. The interior is a mini movie theater with fun extras.

I found conformation of this in a 2007 article by Jason Soifer, a reporter for The Daily Courier, a Prescott, AZ, newspaper. Mr. Soifer interviewed Linda Jepsen, the daughter of Frank Jepsen, a public relations pitchman for the Luer Meat Packing Co., who came up the idea for the Luer Rocket.

"During a couple of summers while she was in high school, Jepsen worked as Lieutenant Linda with her dad, Captain Frank," the article reports.

When I read that, I started to get a good feeling about the Luer Rocket. It wasn't just a float that cruised down main street to promote hot dogs and hamburger meat! Very Happy

The article goes on to confirm the existence of the theater inside, and the space movie it showed.


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Jepsen said the rocket was a huge draw, as people were ushered into the rocket that simulated a roughly seven-minute trip into outer space in air-conditioned comfort. In its heyday, the 40-foot spaceship had a 24-seat 16mm movie theater, a vibrating floor, and sat on a flatbed trailer.

"Sometimes these lines were hundreds of people long. It was really something," she said.

Jepsen said people were ushered into the rocket through the front door, watched the movie and received a sticker badge as they exited from the rocket's backdoor.






Hot dang! A mini-Disney ride, like the old Moon Mission in California! Now you're talkin', folks! I'm sure the vibrating floor was to give the illusion that the rocket was blasting off! Very Happy

I finally understand what the ad below means, which I found on a site called Just a Car Guy, with another great article about the Luer Rocket!



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Hopefully the good folks at the Space Age Museum, who now own the Luer Meat Rocket, will carry out their plans to restore it.

The biggest challenge, of course, will be to replace the short film about the space voyage. It's highly unlikely that prints of it still survive.






But with a lot of hard work and a lot more good luck, the Luer Rocket might someday return to it's former glory.



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