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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject: moon colony ambitions Reply with quote

It looks like the new Moon Race is heating up with both China and Russia joining in with Lunar ambitions.

NASA just can't get it's stuff together, but considering the fact that it's so tied in to the game of political budget boondoggles it's not surprising that the Right Stuff will come from the private sector. Here's a new article from SCIENCE that may give us some hope...

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/jeff-bezos-details-moon-colony-170127381.html

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Jeff Bezos details his moon colony ambitions



Jeff Bezos has big plans for the moon, if he can just get there. With a little elbow grease our trusty satellite could become a platform from which to build out the space industry — and while a partnership with NASA, the ESA and others would be best, Blue Origin will do it solo if it has to.



Speaking at the Space Development Conference in Los Angeles with the inimitable Alan Boyle, Bezos chatted about the idea of making the moon a center for heavy industry, which he thinks will help conserve resources here on Earth.



"In the not-too-distant future — I’m talking decades, maybe 100 years," he said, "it’ll start to be easier to do a lot of the things that we currently do on Earth in space, because we’ll have so much energy. We will have to leave this planet. We’re going to leave it, and it’s going to make this planet better."



There's plenty that Earth will still have to provide — minerals and resources that can't be sourced from the moon — but in other ways a lunar manufacturing base is a no-brainer, he explained.



There's sunlight 24/7 for solar cells, water sequestered beneath the surface, and plenty of lovely regolith to build with (just don't breath in the dust). "It’s almost like somebody set this up for us," he said.



Bezos has already proposed a public-private partnership between Blue Origin and NASA to create a moon lander to test the possibilities of lunar manufacturing and habitation. It would be capable of delivering five tons of payload to the moon's surface, more than enough to get some serious work done there.



That's all still highly speculative, of course, and the rockets produced by the company are all still strictly suborbital. New Glenn, the orbital successor to the smaller-scale New Shepard, is scheduled to fly in the 2020s, but clearly Bezos sees no reason to wait until then to start working on what it may eventually bring to the moon.



When the time comes, he hopes that lunar residence and industry will be a shared privilege, with countries working together in a "lunar village" and combining their strengths rather than testing them against one another.



In the meantime he's funding Blue Origin with his own money to pursue these lofty ambitions. And he'll keep going, he said, until someone else picks up the ball or he goes broke — and he and Alan agreed that the latter seems unlikely.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: moon colony ambitions Reply with quote

Gord Green (quoting Bezos) wrote:
There's sunlight 24/7 for solar cells...

Well, that would be true (figuratively) at the moon's "poles". The rest of the moon may get sunlight 24/7, but not "24/365". The moon has 28-day long "days".
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What a great post, Gord! I love the article and the way you incorporated the gorgeous pictures.

Wayne is right that the only place on the Moon that gets sunlight 24/365 is the poles, but that's why we'd be unwise to build lunar colonies anywhere else.

If been saying that for years! Cool

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the moon may always turn the same face towards Earth, but all its bits get their share of sunshine.

The illustrations are great... but they don't half remind me of the covers of fifties SF magazines!
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Custer wrote:
Yes, the moon may always turn the same face towards Earth, but all its bits get their share of sunshine.

We often see or hear someone referring to the "dark side" of the moon when they actually mean the "far side" of the moon, meaning the side that is always hidden from Earth.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: moon colony ambitions Reply with quote

Gord Green wrote:


This never should have beeb used. It's Moon Base Alpa from UFO.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a puzzling comment, Butch. Confused

Gord simply enhanced his post about future lunar colonization by treating us to various designs for moon bases. Why should that picture have not been included?

Besides, the picture is not from the series UFO. Also, Moon Base Alpha was the lunar outpost in Space: 1999. The lunar station in UFO was simply called "Moonbase".

And finally, it bears absolutely no resemblance to Moon Base Alpha! Very Happy





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orzel-w wrote:
We often see or hear someone referring to the "dark side" of the moon when they actually mean the "far side" of the moon, meaning the side that is always hidden from Earth.

Oh, sure! I suppose next you'll be telling us that "Africa, the Dark Continent" gets as much sunshine as everyplace else!

Honestly, Wayne, where DO you get these strange ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
Honestly, Wayne, where DO you get these strange ideas? Rolling Eyes

Most of them I attribute to brain farts.
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