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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Trump tells Pentagon to create “Space Force”! Reply with quote

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As everyone here knows, I'm not overly fond for our illustrious Tweeter in Chief, Donald J. Trump, but today he did something that might justify all the other questionable things which non-Trump fans like me have been annoyed by.

Read the amazing story below, the Washington Post's version of something which all the news media are now reporting.

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The Latest: Trump tells Pentagon to create “Space Force”

President Donald Trump is announcing that he is directing the Pentagon to create the ‘Space Force’ as an independent service branch. Trump said Monday that “we are going to have the space force” which he deemed a “separate but equal” branch of the military.

Trump says the United States will “be the leader by far” in space and looks to revive the nation’s flagging space program. The president framed space as a national security issue, saying he does not want “China and Russia and other countries leading us.”

Trump also vowed to soon return the United States to the moon and to reach Mars.

Trump was joined by Vice President Mike Pence, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine, former astronaut Buzz Aldrin and members of his space council.

Note from Bud: And get this! He's going to clean up space junk, too.

The White House is [also] establishing a new policy for reducing satellite clutter in space. President Donald Trump is expected to sign the new space policy directive Monday, as the National Space Council convenes.

The new policy calls for providing a safe and secure environment up in orbit, as satellite traffic increases. It also sets up new guidelines for satellite design and operation, to avoid collisions and spacecraft breakups.

Vice President Mike Pence heads the recently revived space council. Cabinet members will take part in the afternoon meeting at the White House, as well as NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine, retired astronauts and scientists.

The council’s executive secretary, Scott Pace, told reporters before the meeting that space is becoming increasingly congested and current guidelines are inadequate to address the challenge.

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President Donald Trump: We Will Have The Space Force, ‘Separate, But Equal’ | NBC News


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I can just see the promotional material for the movie Hollywood will make when they hear about this amazing development! Very Happy





By gum, if Trump creates the United States Space Force as a "separate but equal branch of the military", he might actually get my vote in 2020!





Then again, it he creates it and then I can vote for somebody else I like much better than this habitual prevaricator to keep it going, that would be even better! (Notice the button his wearing in that picture. Very Happy)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Originaly the AIR FORCE was a part of the ARMY until it was broken off to it's own service following WW2, so this is not so crazy a concept.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm informed by a reliable source that their uniforms are to be selected from the following options.





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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now instead of 57% of our economy going into our military we'll make 67%.

Looks like the end of another empire.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From :Morningstar

WHAT WOULD A "SPACE FORCE" LOOK LIKE?

A Space Force would be part of the Air Force, just like the Marine Corps is part of the Navy. Currently, higher-ups at the Air Force aren't too thrilled about the prospect, and the project may not become reality in the near future. The dominant aerospace companies of today -- Boeing (BA), Lockheed Martin (LMT), Northrop Grumman (NOC), Raytheon (RTN) and BAE Systems (BA.LN) -- could even be involved.

But one thing is certain: With more and more developed countries investing in their space programs, all of them will at some point have the need for some sort of space-oriented military branch.

So what would a Space Force of the future do? What would it look like? To answer that question, we'll need to use a bit of imagination combined with the usual military doctrine.

1) Total military superiority

Aside from helping with scientific space-related endeavors (launching satellites, helping with the retrieval of astronauts and equipment, etc.), the main goal wouldn't be much different from other branches of the military: the demonstration of total military superiority in a given area of operations.

Although that area starts at the edge of space and goes over the Kármán line (62 miles above sea level), the superiority is accomplished by the same basic principle used elsewhere:

2) Surveillance and reconnaissance:

In this sense, the Space Force would be the ultimate "eye in the sky" -- it would give unmatched insight into positions of enemies as well as allies, using visualization that would be able to uncover hidden enemy locations and provide intel in situations of diminished visibility. This would be achieved through a combination of satellites and unmanned aerial reconnaissance vehicles that would send and coordinate their data in real-time with intelligence received from ground forces, creating a multi-dimensional layout of enemy position and activity, enabling effective and more accurate target acquisition. Acquired data would be further examined in the Space Force command centers on the ground, as well as in space, perhaps in the form of orbiting space stations.

3) Logistics:

The Space Force should be able to deliver ordnance, vehicles, supplies and personnel with an unmatched speed to any area of operations using special high-load thruster-powered space carriers that would dispatch resources from the orbit directly to any location on Earth. Sounds farfetched?

For now, it does seem like something from a sci-fi movie, but it's definitely not beyond the realm of possibility. Vehicles that can land from space and launch into orbit at a moment's notice are a logical next step in the evolution of reusable space rockets .

Those carriers would also be capable of delivering significant amounts of supplies necessary for rapid deployment of orbital structures and armaments. Speaking of which ...

4) Orbital strikes:

Engaging an enemy from the orbit wouldn't be limited to the distribution of troops and vehicles, but also by means of solar cannons mounted on special satellites and installations. Those would deliver devastating strikes using focused laser beams or sunlight that could melt or vaporize incoming missiles, airplanes as well as ground targets. Special equipment on the satellites would have to make them resistant to hacking and jamming since their unique destructive power and capabilities would turn them into a high-priority target for the enemy.

A special defensive parameter would also need to be raised around these orbital structures, such as space minefields or even fighter-class spaceships. Their role would be to defend strategic points, organize into squadrons and assault enemy installations in space.
Trade and travel routes

As space technology evolves, the Space Force wouldn't be focused solely on Earth-based goals. Soon, celestial bodies in the solar system would become strategic targets.
Wars wouldn't be fought exclusively for resources. Our solar system, not to mention the rest of universe, has ample amounts of them. The focus would be on holding strategic locations along trade and travel routes. Time is money, and whoever owns or controls the most lucrative, shortest routes, controls the space.

To achieve this, countries would need to establish bases on asteroids, moons and locations on different planets. These would be used for providing fuel, entertainment and information for the troops, as well as passengers, and for generating substantial income for whoever owns them.
Colonies in space

That, in turn, would make them grow and evolve from mainly strategic structures into settlements. This particular scenario would require the Space Force to employ small and agile space fighter planes, both manned and unmanned, whose job would be to accompany and protect larger and slower transport vehicles.

Those transports would carry colonists, supplies and tourists to locations in space, and protecting them would be vital. Once established, settlements and military installations would have to be able to fend for themselves by employing both passive (minefields) and active (cannon installations, automated sentries, etc.) defenses.

Once a war inevitably explodes between the space nations, it would be fought on a new, interplanetary level, which would involve ultra-long range weapons, such as laser cannons, and heavy, long-range missiles that would fire from one planet to another, bringing havoc and misery to the new space age. After initial hostilities subsided and only space dust remained, the Space Force would have the somber task of helping to relocate refugees to their new homes on another planet, or a distant, uncharted asteroid.
It may take a few hundred years until we reach this level of technological development and savagery, but in all honesty, I don't see any of this as impossible, or even unlikely.

Take away the space and military jargon, and you will see that the development of events described in this article closely resembles the exploration, migration and growth of settlements in human history.

As we make for the stars, these same principles and dynamics of human conflict and evolution would apply. The Space Force could play a pivotal role in bringing us together, as well as in resolving the conflicts that are bound to escalate.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/market-watch/TDJNMW_20180618372/update-this-is-what-the-us-militarys-space-force-could-look-like.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An awesome article, Gord! Thanks for posting it.

Author Jurica Dujmovic has certainly done his homework and thought this subject through.

I wondered what the the official patch for members of the U.S. Space Force might look like, and here's what I found. Very Happy



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I don't think this last one has much chance of being chosen. Call me crazy, but it just doesn't have the proper serious tone, ya know? Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
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I LIKE this one! A nod to Sci-fi fans! Also a sneaky way to honor Star Trek. I feel proud!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think this one is my favorite. It looks so bad-ass! Very Happy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That last one, Bud ,looks like the actual shoulder patch for the present day U.S.Air Force space division.

From Wiki :





The United States Space Command (USSPACECOM) was a Unified Combatant Command of the United States Department of Defense, created in 1985 to help institutionalize[citation needed] the use of outer space by the United States Armed Forces. The Commander in Chief of U.S. Space Command (CINCUSSPACECOM), with headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base, Colorado, also functioned as the Commander in Chief of the binational U.S.-Canadian North American Aerospace Defense Command (CINCNORAD), and for the majority of time during USSPACECOM's existence also as the Commander of the U.S. Air Force major command Air Force Space Command.

Military space-operations coordinated by USSPACECOM proved to be very valuable for the U.S.-led coalition in the 1991 Persian Gulf War.



The U.S. military has relied on satellite communications, intelligence, navigation, missile-warning and weather systems in areas of conflict since at least the early 1990s, including in the Balkans, in Southwest Asia and in Afghanistan. Space systems have since then been considered[by whom?] as indispensable providers of tactical information to U.S. forces.



As part of an ongoing initiative to transform the U.S. military, on June 26, 2002, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced that U.S. Space Command would merge with USSTRATCOM.



The Unified Command Plan directed that Unified Combatant Commands be capped at ten, and with the formation of the new United States Northern Command, one would have to be deactivated in order to maintain that level.

Thus the USSPACECOM merged into an expanded USSTRATCOM, which would retain the U.S. Strategic Command name and would be headquartered at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska.

The merger aimed to improve combat effectiveness and to speed up information collection and assessment needed for strategic decision-making.





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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do Orzel, but just like the Army Air Corp was a part of the US Army the present incarnation has a very limited agenda. What is being proposed is an expanded organization with expanded goals.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, like so many of Trump's big promises, this one too is just a lot of air that belongs in a big balloon with a propane tank. When are we are going to stop believing this guy? Shocked

Here's the first part of the article on The Verge that tells us how Trumps high-flying concept made a fiery reentry when the Pentagon brought our illustrious Tweeter in Chief back down to Earth.

I'm watching the CNN report right now, which says Trump's idea is ridiculous. I doubt that Fox News will even mention this nonsense. It's anti-Trump, and they steer clear of all that. Very Happy

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Trump’s Space Force may actually be more of a bureaucratic nightmare

By Rachel Becker

On Monday, President Donald Trump directed the Pentagon to create a sixth branch of the Armed Forces: a Space Force. But the process of creating a new military service is more complicated than simply telling the Pentagon to make it so.

Trump’s announcement came during a meeting with the National Space Council, shortly before he signed Space Policy Directive-3. The directive aims to keep satellites, space stations, and debris from careening into each other as they orbit the Earth at tens of thousands of miles per hour.

It’s not something the US can do alone. In fact, the directive acknowledges that “spaceflight safety is a global challenge” and pledges to emphasize “the need for international transparency and [space traffic management] data sharing.”

“That’s a big statement.”

So the real reason Trump was talking about space had nothing to do with a Space Force.

But he nevertheless took the opportunity to direct the Pentagon to create one, citing national identity and national security.

“When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space,” he said. He told the Defense Department “to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a Space Force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. That’s a big statement,” he said.

To effectively coordinate space traffic requires international cooperation. So, bombastically declaring America must dominate space sent mixed messages to the international community, according to Brian Weeden, director of program planning for a space policy NGO called the Secure World Foundation.

“I’m worried that the impromptu Space Force announcement has overshadowed the space traffic management release and is going to hinder US ability to do international outreach and cooperation on the space traffic management.”

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Here's a thought! Maybe Trump can get Mexico to pay for it! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider the source of that information. The kool-ade is mighty tasty!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord Green wrote:
The kool-ade is mighty tasty!

It was Flavor Aid. Grape flavored.

Kool-Aid would really appreciate it if people would quit associating their product with forced suicide. Laughing

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I would like to see these as if they were based upon Russ Mannings designs in Captain Johner and the Aliens (True pictures when I find them:



Organized something like this:











The problem that what I fear is this:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will this Happen?:


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