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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:35 pm    Post subject: 1950s Science Fiction Sequels! Reply with quote

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Today's Hollywood is Sequel Crazy because they've learned that any movie they make can become an endless "cash cow" and spawn a franchise which will earn billions of dollars . . . if the public demands more movies after the initial production. Cool

But back in the 1950s, the Tinseltown Dimwits had no clue that any well-made movie was a seed which could sprout into a crop of sequels, and they could rake in the cash for years to come!

Geez, those poor clueless morons . . . Rolling Eyes

However, bright folks like us can enjoy pretending we’re movie moguls in the 1950s who can come up with brilliant sequels for movies like the ones listed below! Very Happy

So, let's have fun concocting a few follow-up films for the classics we love. And then we can flesh out the plots which would have dazzled sci-fi fans in the Golden Age of Sci-Fi!

Please understand that the suggestions below are just my own ideas for stories which would continue the plots of the great originals. I’ll leave it to you guys to offer more ideas about each one. Very Happy

This thread is not restricted to the movies I’ve listed below. You guys don’t have to reply to the ideas I’ve suggested. This thread is for “sequel concepts” — not for “replies to Bud’s brilliant ideas”. Confused

This is brainstorming at its finest!

So, feel free to suggest your own concepts to the movies listed below. And also you should feel free to add additional movies as well!

We’re using our imaginations to travel back in time and produce the movies Hollywood should have made when we were kids!

And just for the record, all our imaginary sequels will have really big budgets! Wink

So, here we go!

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The Thing from Another World II

The planet that sent the first ship won’t just give up when they don’t hear a report form the alien who survived the crash. Obviously these “super carrots” never meant for the ship to land in arctic, so their next mission will make sure it lands in fertile region where the invaders can “start growing some kind of horrible army. Turn the human race into food for it?” (A quote from the movie.)

I’ve always thought the sequel would take place somewhere in Kansas or Oklahoma — in a remote area surrounded by a few thousand acres of rich, green farmland!





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The Day the Earth Stood Still II

Klaatu left Earth with no idea how much longer he’d live or what decision Earth would make after his dire warning concerning the threat of the Robot Police who possessed “a power over us” that “could not be revoked”. (Again, a quote from the movie.)

I’ve always wondered if his society wished they didn’t have to live under a rigid robot dictatorship, over which they actually had no control!

So, what if Klaatu came back to tell mankind that the situation he told us about was not as simple as he described, and that his interstellar society desperately needed our help, because the robots had such a strong hold on them!

You know . . . like the one shown symbolically in this picture! (Sorry, the image is so good I just couldn't resist using it! Laughing





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When Worlds Collide II

The authors of the book on which the classic movies was based wrote a great sequel. I’ve read it, and I actually like it even better than the first one! But if we were in charge of the sequel for the wonderful original, what would WE do with it?




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War of the Worlds II

Okay, the Martians were kickin’ our asses right up until the viruses in Earth’s atmosphere won the war for us. Shocked

But the Martians wouldn’t just give up after they found out that all their soldiers needed to get inoculated before going off to war!

So, what would the Martians do next? Confused

Perhaps they would place a huge space station in orbit and drop containers which seed the Earth with a virus from Mars that THEY were immune to . . . but which WE were not!

Hell’s bells, turn about is fair play, right? Shocked





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Earth vs the Flying Saucers II

The alien invaders failed to conquer Earth because we found a fatal flaw in their propulsion system which made their saucer’s crash! But . . . did they ALL crash, or did some of them get away? Confused

If so, perhaps the surviving saucers regrouped in space and developed a defense against our anti-magnetic ray . . . and then came back. Having gained a healthy respect for our technology and our determination, perhaps they would then decide to take a shot at negotiating with us. Very Happy

But . . . even if they did, would we trust them?

Hell no! Shocked

With that in mind, mankind would get busy trying to reverse engineer the alien's technology so we could build our own flying saucers — partly to use them against the aliens, and partly to find out if there was a way to make them resistant to our anti-magnetic weapon.





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20 Million Miles to Earth II

Hey, guess what? Venus has life on it! The Ymir’s existence proves that. Smile

And our rocket only crashed on Earth because it got hit by a meteoroid in space! So, we’ve got a proven spaceship that can get us to Venus and back, and we've got solid proof that life exist on Venus!

So, what do we do next?

Hell, we go back! Shocked

The working title of this sequel could be 20 Million Miles FROM Earth. (But of course, we can do better than that . . . ).

Imagine a scene on Venus which pans across the Venusian landscape until we see a Ymir come into view as it gazes down into the valley below.

Suddenly a spacecraft from Earth soars across the strange terrain during it’s decent. It passes out of frame and makes it’s landing while the Venusian creature watches.

~ Click on the image to view a larger version of the gorgeous work of art I created by combining various elements with Paint.net. Cool




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! What was the name of the Sequel to When Worlds Collide you refer to? It was a book?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Behold! The exciting sequel, published in 1934, just one year after the original in 1933.

George Pal was all set to film it, but the deal fell through. Sad

Here's the Wikipedia article about it.

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The same article says this.
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In the mid-1950s, George Pal toyed with the idea of producing a sequel to his 1951 film When Worlds Collide, which would likely have been based on this novel. However, the box office failure of Conquest of Space set back his career for the remainder of the decade and destroyed any chance of a sequel.
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If you have Kindle you can read the sequel from Amazon! Very Happy


After Worlds Collide
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In After Worlds Collide they discover the last domed cities of the Bronson Betans (I guess that would be the Zyrans in any movie): Wend, Strahl, Gorfulu, Danot and Khorlu.

I wonder how George Pal would have portrayed them?

Also they make great names for individual Krell!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The THIRD part of the "Worlds Collide" Trilogy----

This third and final book to Philip Wylie's "When Worlds Collide" duology, The Terrans of Beta concludes this amazing story by finishing where "After Worlds Collide" leaves the reader, and goes even further into the story of the survivors of the Human race, and their new life and struggles upon Bronson Beta.



Having made tremendous new discoveries upon landing on Bronson Beta, Tony and the American survivors, along with the other survivors of Earth, discover that their new home on this alien world isn't as safe as now thought. Further investigating the cities of The Other People, the aliens that once called Bronson Beta their home, reveals an ancient conflict between the Humans and The Other People, a conflict still burning.

In Tony's adventures with his fellow survivors, they will discover the true origins of the Human race, and of a war fought so long ago that it has been lost for millions of years in the darkness of space. Now, as the fate of Bronson Beta itself is at stake, The Humans must unite with unlikely friends to finally conclude what happens when worlds collide.

"The Terrans of Beta" is sure to please both science fiction and fantasy fans fans looking for an inspirational and patriotic tale of intense action and adventure while being able to let their imagination play freely with the abundant imagery and intricate characters with a plot that moves quickly from the introduction until the novel's dramatic conclusion.

Fans of Philip Wylie's "When Worlds Collide" duology will not be disappointed with the effort this novel has made to stay in step with Wylie's original creation, while elaborating more on the story, and bringing it to it's grand finale in The Terrans of Beta, concluding a science fiction masterpiece nearly 80 years in the making.

Also available for Kindle from Amazon.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unfortunately most of the Amazon customers who have bought The Terrans of Beta trashed it in their reviews. Read this one and you'll see what I mean.

Of the 20 customers who reviewed it, 42% gave it only one star, and the review at the link above describes multiple elements of the story that just ignored After Worlds Collide and made up their own poorly written novel.

The general consensus is that the original authors, Wilie and Balmer, would be aghast at this poor attempt to continue their classic story. This doesn't surprise me, because when I read the summary that Gord quoted above, I thought it sounded pretty bad . . . Sad

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Here's what I have in mind for a sequel to The Thing from Another World.

It would basically be what I described in my post on page 7 of the thread for this movie, in which I described what the aliens tried to do when they sent the ship which crashed in the arctic.

The sequel would be the story of the second attempt to invade the Earth, in which things go according to the aliens' plan — unlike what happened in the movie. That wonderful film actually caused us to make some false assumptions about the aliens — assumption which don't bear up under close scrutiny.

Here's what I mean. Very Happy

~ Common Assumption 1# - The alien came from Mars.

None of us smart guys here ever assumed this of course, but John Q. Public took this notion for granted the minute Scotty said, "A man from Mars! Holy Cow!"

However, if the alien did NOT come from Mars, where did it come from? Certainly not from any planet in our solar system.

Actually, we don't have to look any farther than Alpha Centauri B, where astronomers have found a rocky Earth-sized planet which they named Alpha Centauri Bd. It's just four light years away as the crow flies. Practically spittin' distance!

But how did the alien ship get here? Did it have hyperdrive?

Nope, it didn't need it! Very Happy

Let's assume that the ship got a tremendous boost from a launch system when it left Alpha Centauri Bd, and it tore off towards Earth at a healthy 1% the speed of light. Since Alpha Centauri is 4 years away at the speed of light, the journey would take 400 (. . . ish) years, along with a few years for deceleration as well.

~ Common Assumption 2# - There was only one alien in the crashed saucer.

Nope. There were 10 ( . . . ish). Yes, I know, the ship was little, but that's okay because (Drum roll, please! Very Happy) they were all in suspended animation!

And these clever aliens didn't have to waste a dime on complex cryogenic equipment. They just put nine of the ten crewmen in a tank barely large enough to hold them all. Then they topped it off with water.

Once the crew was immersed in water, they simply exposed the interior of the ship to the vacuum of space, and the water in the sealed tank froze solid!

After all, we know for a fact that these aliens can sleep like little lambs in a block of ice! So, freezing them for 400 years would be as easy as tossing bag of Bird's Eye peas into your freezer!



Remember, the original story — Who Goes There? — states that the lone alien had been frozen in the Antarctic ice for eons. But once it thawed out it was all set to convert every living being on Earth into close cousins, whether they wanted to be part of the family or not!

Meanwhile, the tenth alien is the designated driver when the ship reaches Earth, so he's put into a separate tank equipped with a timer, set to go off in 400 years so that when the ship reaches the Sol system he gets a wake-up call and a warm bath, while the cabin is being pressurized and heated up, just for him!

Presto! Captain James T. Karrot of the starship Eggplant, on final approach to Earth!

His mission: to seek out one world and one civilization! To boldly go where no mango has gone before! Laughing

~ Common Assumption 3# - Only one ship came from the alien world.

Golly, I've always thought it would be mighty dumb for the aliens to invade Earth with just one ship and one lone pilot! But I realized today that neither of those assumptions are logical.

I think the Alpha Centaurians sent 10 ( . . . ish) ships, a meager fleet of those small spacecraft to be sure, but certainly better than just one! And since each ship has 10 aliens in those very inexpensive cryogenic chambers, that means there are 100 invading aliens!

But what happened to the other nine ships?

Well, during a 400-year journey across 4 light years, plenty of bad luck can occur. Hitting any little pebble in space at 1% the speed of light would cause a lot more damage than just a cosmic fender-bender!

Or the wake-up timers might not have worked on a few of the ships, so they just sailed on past Sol and kept right on going.

Plus we know that the ships were nuclear powered (hence the radiation the alien emitted all through the movie), so one-or-more of the ships' atomic engines might have melted down and fried the crew like battered okra in a hot frying pan! Shocked

The aliens' invasion plan, of course, was for Captain Karrot and his colleagues to pilot the fleet into low Earth orbit and then start surveying the surface, shopping for real estate that had warm, sunny weather and fertile soil.

Of course, the only thing the Alph Centaurians knew about Earth was just what we know about Alpha Centauri Bd — that it's a planet the right size and distance from the sun to support life.

In view of that, just imagine how pleased the alien captains would have been when they looked down and saw places like Kansas, Idaho, and Oklahoma (where the wavin' wheat can sure smell sweet when the wind comes right behind the rain! Very Happy)



Yes, indeed! This was an invasion of agriculturally-minded space explorers — an army of Agri-nauts one might say — whose motto was (in Latin):

Veni, vidi, coluerunt!

"We came, we saw, we cultivated!"

On the planet below they could see miles and miles of incredibly fertile fields, all tilled and ready for the corn and wheat and alfalfa to be plowed under and replaced by a huge bumper crop of Alien Baby Plants, fed by the nutrients obtained from countless cows, chickens, pigs, and red-blooded farmers who would be forced to show the aliens how to drive the tractors before they where hung upside down in the barn with their throats cut . . . like the rest of their families! Shocked



Unfortunately for poor Captain Karrot in the classic movie, he woke up from his 400-year nap and found himself all alone in space. The rest of his fleet was MIA, for reasons unknown! Sad

And to make matters worse, his own starship was limping along on an engine that wasn't hitting on all eight atomic cylinders!

Desperately he tried to find a landing place that was remote enough to hide in, but still fertile enough for him and his still hibernating popsicle crew to start a small farm and raise a little family which included a few hundred blood-thirsty alien children to help him conquer the Earth!

Captain Karrot did his heroic best, but he overshot his intended landing area — Alaska (which is listed as one the ten most fertile states in the U.S.), and he crash-landed near the North Pole.

Bummer . . .



That would have been all she wrote for poor Captain Karrot, but he had one last bit of luck when he was rescued by the folks in the movie and given one last chance to turn all the scientists, GI's, Eskimos, and sled dogs into Gerber's Baby Food and salvage the ambitious invasion plans of his intelligent race.

But, as we all know, the clever humans proved conclusively that a group of America's best military men, teamed up with the finest scientific minds on the planet, were capable of barely defeating one lone, desperate alien in a last ditch effort which — if it had failed — would have meant the end of mankind.

Gee, when you put it that way, we didn't do all that great, did we? Shocked

Like Scotty said, we need to watch the skies, everywhere. Keep looking. Keep watching the skies.




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Now, exactly what am I proposing for the sequel?
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In the sequel, the 2nd wave of the invasion ships has much better luck than the first wave, in which only one ship out ten makes it to Earth, and even that one crashes, with only one member of the crew actually surviving!

Perhaps the second fleet of ships incorporated advancements which prevented the mishaps and malfunctions that caused all but one of the first wave from even reaching Earth!

As a result, all-or-most of the ten ships in the second wave succeed . . . just as I described above! Shocked

The invasion fleet reaches Earth, and their thawed-out pilots put their ships into orbit around Earth while they survey our fertile planet. The pilots agree on the best landing site — a region in Oklahoma with miles and miles of cultivated land they can use to start raising their army of invaders!

But how should this story end? We can't just let these vegetable-based creatures proliferate right in the middle of America's Bread Basket until they've created an army of inhuman soldiers which use the technologically advanced weapons they've brought to defeat us!

It occurs to me that they might even have brought equipment capable of synthesizing biological weapons that would be effective on humans . . . but not on the plant-based physiology of the aliens!

This could be the ruthless method they've used on other worlds with sentient animal life forms they've conquered.

So, this story involves the aliens' efforts to wipe out mankind with a plague which leaves our plant devoid of human life . . . while remaining rich in animal life that the blood-thirsty aliens use to feed their own species . . .


What do you think, guys?_
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the THING sequel, Bud, just have the giant rabbits from NIGHT OF THE LEPUS eat up all the carrot people from Alpha Centari 3 !

Then Scotty would say "Watch where you walk, there's rabbit crap all over the place!"

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord Green wrote:
For the THING sequel, Bud, just have the giant rabbits from NIGHT OF THE LEPUS eat up all the carrot people from Alpha Centari 3 !

Then Scotty would say "Watch where you walk, there's rabbit crap all over the place!"

Gord, that is hysterical! Laughing
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A sequel to 20 Million Miles to Earth . . . with the story set on Venus.

Hmmm . . .

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At first that might sound like just another 1950s movie about space explorers landing on an alien world. What movies of that type come to mind?

Well, there’s Destination Moon, with a crew landing on Earth’s dead Moon.






Missile to the Moon offers a more friendly experience for the astronauts, but the movie is basically pretty goofy, so I’m sure it’s nobody’s favorite.





And then there’s Rocketship X-M, an intelligent movie about a mission to the Red Planet which discovers the sad remnants of a civilization destroyed by atomic war.





On the other hand, The Angry Red Planet offers a world of strange plants and animals . . . along with an advanced civilization only glimpsed from afar . . . who warns mankind not to ever come back!





The flip side of this is Queen of Outer Space, with a version of Venus that offers gorgeous, love-starved women who can’t wait to welcome Earthmen into their loving arms!





Journey to the 7th Planet — the planet with the funny name — seems to be populated by sexy ladies, but the space explorers find out otherwise, and they barely escape with their lives. Shocked
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Amidst all these enjoyable films from the Golden Age of Science Fiction is 20 Million Miles to Earth, which doesn’t take us TO Venus . . . it brings something back FROM Venus!

But in doing so, we find out that our understanding of Earth’s sister world is seriously flawed. It's not the hellish world of searing temperatures and a poisonous atmosphere that scientists claim it is! It harbors life — and these life forms can even survive and flourish when brought back to Earth.

In fact, the life form brought back by the Venusian mission, was so adapt as surviving on Earth that it hatched out of an egg, grew at an accelerated rate, and sought a food source without threatening the animals it uncounted on Earth.






My point, of course, is that the environmental conditions on Venus (according to this movie) must be very similar to those here on Earth. And if that’s true, a second mission to Venus would only need moderate environmental equipment to survive. But the biggest threat is the horrible disease which killed many of the crew on the first mission. Precautions against the disease would be absolutely necessary.

However, the real revelation the movie provides is the idea that a Venusian life form could hatch from an egg and survive on an alien planet for as long at it did, despite all the aggressive actions taken against it!

Furthermore, it can be argued that the Ymir might have a high order of a intelligence, since it broke out of the gelatinous mass, stood right up, walked around with no trouble —






— then smashed out the cage it was placed in and found a bag of sulfur, a substance which Dennis Hopper stated was one of its food sources on Venus.

Think for a moment just how helpless most Earth animals are immediately after birth. I realize that most of this could be explained as mere instinct, but we should bear in mind that the only aggressive behavior the Ymir demonstrated occurred when a dog attacked it, a man stabbed it with a pitchfork, and it had to defend itself against the elephant.

And when those things happened, it fought in a manner that showed cunning and a lack of fear.






Furthermore, when it was attacked by the military at the Colosseum it didn’t try to attack the tanks, the way a rhinoceros or a bull might, nor did it try to hide in the lower levels of the building, which would be another animal-like response.

What it did instead was seek the high ground by climbing to the top of the building . . . and then it used large blocks of stone as weapons, throwing them down onto the soldiers!

Animals don't use weapons. Shocked








Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that the Ymir was intelligent!

What this means concerning a sequel is that the second expedition would go to Venus after already deciding they might have brought back a specimen that was more than just an animal! Knowing this, they would try to determine just how intelligent the Ymir are, while studying them in a manner that did the life form no harm.

Perhaps the level of the Ymir’s intelligence is roughly that of the dolphins, so the explorers might not find things like villages and a rudimentary tool-using technology. But then again, the foggy nature of Venus might mean that a more careful study of the planet from high orbit using radar to map the surface could turn up some real surprises.

Finally, there’s this.

Dennis Hopper states (in effect) that it’s imperative for mankind to develop the ability to establish mining colonies on Venus because it is rich in many of the resources needed by mankind. But if the Ymir population turn out to be vicious and territorial, this might prove to be a real threat to our efforts to establish colonies.




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