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Fantastic Voyage (1966)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There used to be a web site, The Model Builder's Reference Vault, by Phil Broad. It had GREAT photos of the CMDF and Proteus sets. It is a shame it is gone.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krel wrote:
There used to be a web site, The Model Builder's Reference Vault, by Phil Broad. It had GREAT photos of the CMDF and Proteus sets. It is a shame it is gone.

David.


Krell,
Do you know the URL of that site? Maybe the wayback machine has it archived.
https://archive.org/web/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alltare wrote:
Do you know the URL of that site? Maybe the wayback machine has it archived.
https://archive.org/web/

The domain name was Cloudster.com, but a Wayback Machine search for that name brings up nothing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alltare wrote:
Krel wrote:
There used to be a web site, The Model Builder's Reference Vault, by Phil Broad. It had GREAT photos of the CMDF and Proteus sets. It is a shame it is gone.

David.

Krell, do you know the URL of that site? Maybe the wayback machine has it archived.

https://archive.org/web/

Here ya go:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130430152927/http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Proteus/ProteusTop.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Thanks for the detective work! Now that we know Phil Broad's old Cloudster site has been archived for future generations, I can nitpick a couple of minor errors in the Fantastic Voyage info. (Quotations from the site are in bold.)

Harper Goff is listed as a "special consultant", not Art Director.

In fact, Harper Goff's credit on FV is "creative production research."

It began when they were trying to decide how to shoot the whirl pool scene. . . They borrowed a huge punch bowl, which was known to be in the possession of Lucille Ball, filled it with red punch, dropped in a few handfuls of "Cheerios" to represent red corpuscles, then stirred it up into a whirling mass and, as the camera was running, they tossed in the tiny model sub.

According to L.B. Abbott's book Special Effects: Wire, Tape and Rubber Band Style, it wasn't a punch bowl; it was an 8-foot-diameter champagne glass originally made for the Shirley MacLaine comedy What a Way to Go! And the effect must have required more than "a few handfuls" of red-dyed Cheerios -- at least one or two dozen boxes, I should think.




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotpens wrote:
^^ Thanks for the detective work!

You're welcome.

FYI, a trick with the Wayback Machine is to know the URL you are looking for rather than the site name. What I did was Google for Cloudster and Phil Broad, and I found pages which linked to the defunct site (such as CultTVMan's page) and got the URL from there to punch into Wayback.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Raquel Welsh in her autobiography, she attempted to seduce Stephen Boyd but he gentlemanly refused.

He just couldn't have been human!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just watched this wonderful movie & was noting the differences between the film and the Gold Key Comic Book adaptation of FV.
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Movie } The Stephen Boyd character (Grant, our lead) enters the CMDF HQ via a secret hydraulic floor which lowers the car he is sitting in down to the CMDF.

Comic } A helicopter takes the lead character to the top of a mountain & lands on the ground. The ground then lowers the copter downward, similar to the auto.

Comic } Grant (played by Stephen Boyd) is taken into a laboratory by the project's military director, General Carter (Edmund O'Brien).

Carter proceeds to show Grant a pair of monkeys that have been miniaturized, which are on a test slide under a microscope.

Movie } No such scene appears in the film.

Comic } The mission is referred to as ''Operation Lilliput.''

Movie } The mission is never called ''Operation Lilliput''.

Movie } When Grant tests the wireless communication, he sends the signal, ''Miss Peterson (Raquel Welsh) has smiled.''

Comic } ''Miss Peterson has not smiled yet!'' is the signal Grant sends.

Movie } Captain Owens (William Redfield) pilots the Proteus from a chair located above the main deck & under a clear dome.

Comic } Captain Owens pilots the ship from the main deck in a chair in front of the forward window.

Movie } Grant confides to Dr. Michaels (Donald Pleasence) that there is a saboteur aboard the Proteus and that he is suspicious of Dr. Duval (Arthur Kennedy). Michaels can't believe Duval could be guilty.

Comic } The dialogue is similar, but they reverse it from the film. Grant is saying Michael's dialogue and vice versa.

Movie } The Proteus intake vents becomes clogged with matter. The crew exits the vessel in order to clear it when a nurse in the operating room drops a surgical tool onto the floor. This causes the sound waves to jolt the crew who are located near the ear. Miss Peterson is sent tumbling into an area of the ear. She is attacked by strands of material that proceed to choke her.

She's rescued by Grant, brought back into the sub where the crew remove the material from her and save her life.

Comic } This scene is nowhere in the comic book.

Movie } Dr. Michaels tells Captain Owens that fluid is seeping from the hatch. Owens bends down to check it out and discovers it's a lie. Michaels then proceeds to strike Owens with a fire extinguisher (I think that's what it was) knocking Owens out.

Comic } Owens joins the rest of the crew who are now operating on the brain clot. He says that Michaels forced him out of the sub with a knife.

Movie } Michaels takes over the Proteus controls and attempts to ram the vessel into Benes (the patient) brain in order to kill Benes.

Grant takes over the laser rifle and shoots the beam into the sub, causing it to crash before Michaels can do any harm.
Grant and Owens attempt to rescue Michaels who is trapped by the control arms of the pilot chair. The antibodies land on the dome of the submarine and proceed to eat through it, and then eat Michaels. Grant and Owens, seeing they cannot free him, must evacuate from the Proteus or die with Michaels.

Comic } Michaels is trapped in the sub, but not in the pilot seat. Grant and Owens do not have time to enter the vessel in an attempt to rescue Michaels.

Movie } Our intrepid crew exit from Benes body via his eye in a teardrop. They are carefully placed upon a test slide and brought to the miniaturization room where they resume their normal size as the support staff surround them and congratulate the Proteus crew.

Comic } We don't see any finale scene as the one in the film.
We see General Carter escorting Grant and Peterson to the secret passageway for the CMDF HQ.

The final panel has the general, Grant, and Peterson on the top of the mountain saying goodbye as we see a helicopter in the distance coming to pick them up.

The Proteus is done well in the GK Comic and pretty faithful in looks, inside and out, to the movie version.

The operating room in the movie is much larger than the comic book illustration.

Actor Arthur O'Connell's character, a military medical doctor, doesn't show up at all in the comic book.

Fun movie, fun comic book.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll try to find good jpegs of the comic book version of this movie and post all the pages here!

Thanks for your amazing comparison of the movie and comic!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pow wrote:

Movie } The Stephen Boyd character (Grant, our lead) enters the CMDF HQ via a secret hydraulic floor which lowers the car he is sitting in down to the CMDF.

Comic } A helicopter takes the lead character to the top of a mountain & lands on the ground. The ground then lowers the copter downward, similar to the auto.

So in the movie, Grant in the car goes down a few dozen feet, then once inside the CMDF complex, he's taken up several levels of ramps on an electric scooter. Whereas in the comic book, he's flown up to a mountaintop, then goes down into CMDF. Seems like a lot of wasted motion in either case!

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Movie } When Grant tests the wireless communication, he sends the signal, ''Miss Peterson (Raquel Welsh) has smiled.''

Comic } ''Miss Peterson has not smiled yet!'' is the signal Grant sends.

Interestingly, the movie never explains why the radio uses Morse code. In Isaac Asimov's novelization, there's a brief line about having difficulty with voice transmission across the miniaturization gap.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure exactly what you mean when you mention ''wasted motion'' in regards to the secret entrance into the CMDF base?

I took it as both the movie & comic book versions were establishing that the CMDF was located away from prying eyes from enemy agents.The base was making infiltration as difficult as possible.

The depth of how far the hydraulic platform takes the auto or helicopter could also be due to securing the base from any kind of attack with bombs,chemicals or other weapons of destruction.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud, a great site with the whole comic can be found here :

http://readcomicbooksonline.org/reader/Fantastic_Voyage/Fantastic_Voyage_Issue_0



Artwork done by the great Wally Wood with assists by Dan Adkins. Not his best work; this was done during his "Gotta pay the bills" period so don't look for his classic EC artistry here, just good story telling technique. Script by Paul Newman (The writer, not the actor!) who wrote many of the Gold Key series of the time.

Most variations from the movie were done no doubt to simplify the illustration flow and clarify the details in the limited pages available. Still a good read!

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One of the interesting things I found, was that the CMDF facility was located in a city. In most stories, the secret base is in the middle of nowhere, not in the middle of a city.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krel wrote:
One of the interesting things I found, was that the CMDF facility was located in a city. In most stories, the secret base is in the middle of nowhere, not in the middle of a city.

Well, U.N.C.L.E.'s secret New York headquarters had a hidden entrance in the back of a tailor shop. And U.F.O.'s SHADO complex was underneath a movie studio!
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