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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I enjoyed GALACTICA '80 , even though it sometimes seemed like GALACTICA ADAMA 12 (Adam 12).
My favorite episode was unfortunately the last one, THE RETURN OF STARBUCK. Very much a Robinson Crusoe in Space with a Cylon Friday. _________________ There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child. |
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johnnybear Mission Specialist
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:16 am Post subject: |
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I've heard lots of theories about what happened next to Starbuck on that planet! One, he could have repaired Cy with all those Cylon Centurions lying damaged in the sand! He could have flown the Cylon raider off that rock and easily caught up with the Galactica and the fleet! Plus I think there is a YouTube video where someone has made this episode as part of the original series by using scenes here and there from earlier BSG and giving it a happy ending too!
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I enjoyed this comprehensive and entertaining 45-minute documentary about the original series. It's packed with interesting info and amusing outtakes.
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_____________ BSG Documentary 1978 (2003)
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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IMDB has 68 trivia items for this series. Two of them caught my attention, shown in the blue text.
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~ Respected fantasy artist Frank Frazetta was commissioned to produce four promotional paintings for the series, all of which appeared in TV Guide and various other magazines. One of the paintings (originally used for "Saga of a Star World") appeared on the cover of the Berkley novelization "Battlestar Galactica 2: The Cylon Death Machine" by Glen A. Larson and Robert Thurston, published in early 1979.
Note from me: Yes indeed, the great Frank Frazetta certainly did a fine job with these.
~ In tribute to the series, U.S. Air Force pilots commenced to refer to the F-16 Fighting Falcon as the Viper when it entered service in 1980, there were similarities with the real-life F-16 and the Colonial Viper, where the name stuck. The Viper, however, was not based on any real-world fighter aircraft.
Note from me: Ummm . . . nope, I just don't see the resemblance.
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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According to a lawyer I knew, who was in the A.F. reserves (he got called back for the first Gulf War), their nickname for the F-16 was "the grunt sucker". He didn't know of any cases of that actually happening, but they figured it was only a matter of time.
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Maurice Mission Specialist
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Joined: 14 Dec 2013 Posts: 485 Location: 3rd Rock
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Forgive me, guys, but some of the critics of CGI tend to ignore the fact that the freedom of digital film-making allows producers to create science fiction which is much more exciting and visually appealing than the movies and TV series from decades in the past!
Take it from me, an aging artist who's seen a lot and can tell the bad from the good. This popular series is a prime example.
The visual look of Star Trek: Discovery compared to this well-remembered series proves that our fond memories of it are largely based on nostalgia.
And before somebody shouts, "But wait! What about the storis?" — that's apples and oranges, folks. I'm just comparing the aging FX of old shows like this one to the astounding eye candy of series like Star Trek: Discovery.
Hell, in Star Trek: Discovery we can't even tell which elements of each scene are real and which are computer generateD! But the point is . . . if it looks spectacular, shouldn't we just relax and enjoy it?
The obvious answer is . . . hell yes!
_____ Battlestar Galactica 1978 Full HD ABC Trailer
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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ralfy Mission Specialist
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:17 am Post subject: |
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"Battlestar Galactica and Mormonism"
https://www.millennialstar.org/battlestar-galactica-and-mormonism/
Quote: | Suddenly, for those paying attention, BSG was no longer about humanity fleeing for its lives from a superior force, hoping to find shelter on a mythical planet called Earth. It was about the battle for humanity’s soul. The Cylons weren’t just evil (if somewhat inept at shooting) robots – they were created for the specific purpose of becoming an army whose purpose would be to eliminate humanity. Iblis is at war with the being in the Ships of Light, and this war is reflected in the war between humanity and the Cylons. Humanity’s survival wasn’t just about genetic reproduction: It was about spiritual advancement: Humanity was meant to survive because its ultimate destiny is to become as advanced as the beings in the ships of light. The Cylons (and Count Iblis) meant to kill them all off (or at least corrupt them) before that could happen. |
"E21. Are there parallels between Battlestar Galactica and Mormonism?"
http://www.kobol.com/archives/BG-FAQ.html#E21 |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Both my sister and brother-in-law are Morons. My brother-in-law told me once about some of the surprising things the Morons believe about God.
The text below is from the Wikipedia article called Mormon cosmology.
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The prevailing view among Mormons is that God once lived on a planet with his own higher god.
According to Mormon scripture, the Earth's creation was not ex nihilo, but organized from existing matter. The Earth is just one of many inhabited worlds, and there are many governing heavenly bodies, including the planet or star Kolob, which is said to be nearest the throne of God.
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Wowzer! God had a body . . . and he had a God higher than Him! Gee, what happened to the Big Boss God? Did he move to a different universe?
And the Not-So-Big God made Earth out of stuff that already existed. Hey, how 'bout that? The Earth is made from recycled materials! Way to go, God!
Also, God made lots of inhabited planets, including "many governing heavenly bodies" — which is an intriguing statement. Does it mean there were planet which served as the seat of government for interstellar empires?
Cool idea. But it sounds less like religion and more like (dare I say it?) — science fiction.
In fact, all this sounds a lot like an important element of my unpublished novel, Sail the Sea of Star, the first 2/3 of which is posted here on All Sci-Fi.
The part I've not yet added to the thread is the part in which the reader learns that the universe was created by a group of powerful but dispassionate beings known as the demon-gods, who created all matter and all life . . . merely as amusing experiments and creative projects, which they indulged in for their own amusement.
But one of the many sentient alien races they created were actually given so much intelligence that they secretly conspired to rid the universe of the selfish and uncaring demon-gods . . . by wiping out ALL life in the universe, including themselves.
In other words, a suicide mission on an intergalactic scale.
However, these super-intelligent aliens prepared for their demise by seeding the universe with hidden treasure troves containing both advanced technology and genetic material, so that eventually the A.I. systems who protected these secret storehouses could carefully guide the restoration of life in the universe . . . without the interference of the extinct demon-gods.
One of these storehouses is inside out Moon. Earth's "evolution" has been patiently engineered by an A.I. system we've never know was there.
This concept is my idea for a "third alternative" to the two prevailing theories of creation: evolution (its all a big accident), and creationism (it's all part of God's plan).
I think they're both dead wrong, so I concocted the demon-gods concept — just for the fun of it. ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ ____________
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Joined: 27 Sep 2014 Posts: 3424 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Some excerpts from Robert MacKenzie's TV Guide review.
Twentieth Century-Fox, the maker of "Star Wars" has sued the makers of this ABC space saga (Universal TV) because they allegedly stole from the movie. If that's true, they didn't steal enough. All they got away with is the hardware.
All the fun and fantasy in the ABC show is in the action effects, and dillies they are.
But it's discouraging to meet the people in the cockpits, who could have stepped over from the nearest law-and-order series without changing an inflection.
Sidebar: Looks like ole Bob wasn't all that taken with BSG. Neither was I. I also found George Lucas suing the TV series funny. I never found the feature film or BSG with their respective premises very similar at all.
We can also cite some sources that George "borrowed" from for his SW movie.
BSG had potential but it quickly became bogged down in routine stories borrowed from all the genres such as westerns, war, murder-mystery. Not much was fresh or all that original. Lucas need not have ever worried that this show would become any kind of threat to his SW empire. He didn't need to strike back. |
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tmlindsey Mission Specialist
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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My major problem with BG (or as I call it, Cattlecar Galacticrap) was the endless use of the same FX footage week-after-week. Even as a kid, or maybe because I was a kid, the characters weren't enough to hold my attention. Using the same dozen or so FX shots of vipers and raiders flying and/or being blown up got old really quick, especially for a show that touted its SFX. I bowed out of that series well before the end. _________________ "Have you never wondered what it would be like to walk between the ticks and tocks of Time?" |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, sir. We were fed lame stories and left-over FX that were familiar after the premiere of the series. It was insulting, boring, and unprofessional. ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) _________________ ____________
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ralfy Mission Specialist
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I remember reading somewhere that the main problem with the show is that its context, which is essentially genocide, went against what's suitable for its target audience, which is children. The result was adventures in various places, but with moments of terror (like what happened to some in the space casino) mixed with corny events involving kids and pet robot dogs.
Given that, I wonder what would have happened had they come up with something meant for adults, i.e., a combination of the cosmological coupled with the gritty. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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In retrospect, I can see how the series was ruined by exactly what you described above, Ralfy.
The current on-line Star Trek series are drastically different from Battlester Galactica, because they're doing just what you suggested the older series should have done. ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:42 am Post subject: |
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ralfy wrote: | I remember reading somewhere that the main problem with the show is that its context, which is essentially genocide, went against what's suitable for its target audience, which is children. The result was adventures in various places, but with moments of terror (like what happened to some in the space casino) mixed with corny events involving kids and pet robot dogs.
Given that, I wonder what would have happened had they come up with something meant for adults, i.e., a combination of the cosmological coupled with the gritty. |
Reminds me of what Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski said when he was creating his B5 TV show, "No funny robots, no cute kids." |
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