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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Some More "Mudd's Women," Trivia.
Star Trek Wardrobe designer William Theiss, who made sure these women's dangerous curves were highly noticeable, had a theory about sexy clothing. He believed that nothing could be more titillating than a dress that appears as if, at any moment, it might slip an inch out of place and reveal something the network censors would panic over.
William Shatner said, "Somehow Gene always showed up for the costume fittings to make his own design adjustments. Roddenberry's adjustments always added up to skimpier outfits."
"Mudd's Women" was given a seven-day filming schedule instead of the usual six. Cast & crew were still learning their way around and this script required the company's first visit to Stage 10 for the planet sets.
Cinematographer Jerry Finnerman recalled talking to producer Bob Justman & Roddenberry and said 'Wouldn't it be nice for each planet to have a different colored sky? Who's to say that one planet could have a purple sky while another could have orange or magenta?'
Gels would be cut for these huge 10k lights on the sets each week so we could have different colored skies for each planet.
The Westheimer Company, the second of five optical houses to work on Star Trek, were rushed in at the last minute to cover for Howard & Darrell Anderson who were completely over their heads with "The Corbomite Maneuver."
I'm curious if TV shows today that are heavy with special & visual effects have multiple optical houses to create the visuals like ST:TOS did back in 1966; or do the networks have their own in-house optical effects division in order to create and handle everything everything?
I know that when I see a movie requiring many visual effects and I read the end credits that there are usually 12, 13 different visual effects companies involved in the making of the film.
This episode came in over budget at $198,534, more than $6,000 over.
And to think that today's sci~fi TV shows require budgets in the millions of dollars.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:56 am Post subject: |
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POW wrote: | Star Trek Wardrobe designer William Theiss, who made sure these women's dangerous curves were highly noticeable, had a theory about sexy clothing. He believed that nothing could be more titillating than a dress that appears as if, at any moment, it might slip an inch out of place and reveal something the network censors would panic over. |
There is, of course, no denying that men are teased by a garment with shoulder straps that tend to slip off the lady's shoulders, or by slits in a skirt that allows a shapely leg to play peekaboo when she's walking.
Frankly, however, I think the wardrobes worn by gals in Mudd's Women don't actually tease as much the statement above implies.
For these dresses to be as provocative as the designer wanted, they needed lower neck lines, thinner fabrics, and softer textures.
Sometimes the material of an outfit can actually be more exciting than bare skin — as shown here by Miss Faith Domergue!
I mean . . . damn . . .
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scotpens Space Sector Commander
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:52 am Post subject: |
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The dress worn by actress Maggie Thrett (Ruth Bonaventure) was somewhat provocative with its peekaboo front gap.
Susan Denberg (Magda Kovacs) fared the worst of the three in the wardrobe department. Her outfit looked like it was hastily made from a fringed bedspread!
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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You're right!
Despite the fact that the color and pattern are nice, and the hemline shows an abundance of lovely legs, the fabric looks like it was knitted by somebody's grandma using thick yarn!
It's just the opposite of the thin, clinging, shiny, sexy-as-hell nightgown Miss Domergue is wearing in the image above. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Nitpicks
After finding out that the Enterprise needs new lithium crystals, Harry Mudd gets an inspiration. He tells the women that they will soon wed rich miners on Rigel Xii where the Enterprise must journey in order to obtain the precious crystals, and that he will be ordering Kirk around.
This all takes place in the briefing room where Kirk held Mudd's hearing.
In the background two security guards listen to this entire exchange. Why don't they report this conversation to their captain?
Just after beaming aboard the Enterprise, Childress meets with Kirk. Halfway through the meeting, Mudd comes barging in with the women.
Wait a minute: Kirk confined Harry to his quarters and posted a guard.
Is the guard so zoned out by the women, just like the guards in the briefing room earlier, that they are unable to perform their duties?
At the end of the episode, after successful negotiations, the miners give Captain Kirk the much needed lithium crystals.
We then watch Harry and Kirk walk out of Childress' habitat without the crystals.
Why does Ben Childress' habitat look so much different inside than out? When we first see the mining colony it consists of a cylindrical metal pre-fab building. Once inside Ben's living quarters it suddenly morphs into looking like a cave.
The furnishings aren't fabricated but made of wood.
Wouldn't Ben have had goggles and a particle mask handy for trips outdoors for himself and others? Yet none of his visitors use them during the severe sandstorm.
How can Eve's final transformation from drab to beautiful be explained?
She took no drug, yet her eyelashes suddenly grow, her lips somehow are coated in sparkling lip gloss & her hair miraculously becomes professionally styled.
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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scotpens wrote: | The dress worn by actress Maggie Thrett (Ruth Bonaventure) was somewhat provocative with its peekaboo front gap.
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There's a blooper where she stretches her arm up, giving a bit more than a peekaboo.
A lot of the fabrics are actually the backside (underside?) of the fabric to give the costume a different look.
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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While we're on the topic of wardrobe, this episode shows Uhura wearing a gold colored uniform rather than her usual red one.
And Mr. Spock's black color on his shirt is higher than what we usually see.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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POW wrote: | In the background two security guards listen to this entire exchange. Why don't they report this conversation to their captain? |
Because a man in love has eyes only for the girl of his dreams — so his blissful thought are carried aloft, where they simply blah, blah, blah, etc.
POW wrote: | Halfway through the meeting, Mudd comes barging in with the women.
Wait a minute: Kirk confined Harry to his quarters and posted a guard. |
See explanation above. Love makes the galaxy go 'round . . .
POW wrote: | At the end of the episode, after successful negotiations, the miners give Captain Kirk the much needed lithium crystals.
We then watch Harry and Kirk walk out of Childress' habitat without the crystals. |
Ah-ha. Here's why.
After Eve proves that she's such a hottie that no drugs are needed, all the blood in Kirk's brain flies south for the winter . . . if you catch my drift.
POW wrote: | How can Eve's final transformation from drab to beautiful be explained?
She took no drug, yet her eyelashes suddenly grow, her lips somehow are coated in sparkling lip gloss & her hair miraculously becomes professionally styled. |
Simple. A woman who has found the ecstasy of true love will radiate an inner beauty which transcends the mere physical! For that reason, she will simply blah, blah, blah . . . and by God, I'm feeling nauseous. _________________ ____________
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Not to worry, folks. All Sci-Fi has lots better stuff in our Star Trek Cosplay photos and our Sci-Fi Babe Collection threads! _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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scotpens Space Sector Commander
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Pow wrote: | How can Eve's final transformation from drab to beautiful be explained?
She took no drug, yet her eyelashes suddenly grow, her lips somehow are coated in sparkling lip gloss & her hair miraculously becomes professionally styled. |
Yes, that really pushes the story beyond sci-fi and into fantasy or allegory. Or something.
Also, Eve didn't look nearly as bad as the other women when the drug wore off. The other two looked like old hags. Eve looked like she'd just gotten out of bed in the morning! |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Pow wrote: | Writer Harlan Ellison . . . came into the office of writer/story editor for ST John D.F. Black to announce that he had hooked up with "Mudd's Women" actress Maggie Treat.
John laughed and corrected Ellison telling him that her name was Maggie Thrett; not Maggie Treat.
Harlan replied, "Well it just goes to show you the difference between you and me. To you she's a threat; to me she's a treat." |
Spoken like a true lover and talented writer!
As for the problem with the story's conclusion, when Karen Steel unwittingly took a placebo and miraculous got all gorgeous again, perhaps the story should have done this instead.
The drug doesn't (somehow) make plan women beautiful, it gives them and ability to alter a man's reaction to what she really looks like. Sort of like "Chanel No 5 for the eyes, instead of the nose." _________________ ____________
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