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Metropolis as seen on BBC/PBS in 70s

 
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Steve Joyce
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Metropolis as seen on BBC/PBS in 70s Reply with quote

Here's the whole Kit n Kaboodle. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL_dop5Az2E

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was the first version of Metropolis that I saw in full. I was really struck with the more modern sound effects that had been added and thought that they really helped the movie.

Only saw it once, until now that is.

I think a lot of silent films and early talkies could do with an upgraded sound package. Ok, maybe not try and add talking to silent films...but sound effects might not be bad...and to those films that ARE talkies..especially the ones dealing with the first World War....upgrade the sound effects please.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sound effects aren't quite as impressive as I remembered, but the date (1978) coincides with the year I'm sure I saw Metropolis on PBS. And the subtle nature of the sound effects is what makes them work. They enhance the visuals like seasoning in a gourmet dish — and they never intrude on the story.

The full orchestral score that was added to the film recently seems to work too hard to make up for the lack of sound effects and dialog.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The alarm that sounds when the gates open allowing the offgoing shift to pass the oncoming shift near the beginning is the same as the one I recorded when I saw this back then.

I still think some silent films can have new sound effects added or new music and it not destroy the experience of seeing the 'silent' film.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
The full orchestral score that was added to the film recently seems to work too hard to make up for the lack of sound effects and dialog.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

You're aware, I assume, that the orchestral score was written by Gottfried Huppertz for Metropolis' original release? With the film now 95% restored and accompanied by the original music, it's as close as possible to what it must have looked -- and sounded -- like when first shown to German audiences in 1926.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consolidated:

_Metropolis (1926 ~ 1978 TV Broadcast Part One)


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_Metropolis (1926 ~ 1978 TV Broadcast Part Two)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotpens wrote:
You're aware, I assume, that the orchestral score was written by Gottfried Huppertz for Metropolis' original release? With the film now 95% restored and accompanied by the original music, it's as close as possible to what it must have looked -- and sounded -- like when first shown to German audiences in 1926.

Yep, I get what they were trying to do, but it just doesn't entirely work for me personally. I've seen a version that had a very understated score with limited sound effects slipped in, and it seemed a bit better — at least for me.

I guess what I meant was, music does one thing for a movie and sound effects do something else, and even though there's an overlap, when you don't have both working together it's a little like wearing only one really expensive shoe.

You look good from a certain angle, but you don't walk quite as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Brewster wrote:
Music does one thing for a movie and sound effects do something else, and even though there's an overlap, when you don't have both working together it's a little like wearing only one really expensive shoe.

That's actually a very good analogy, and very accurate.

I have seen this type of flub in many movies, and as you stated, it just doesn't work. It is, as a matter of fact, a major distraction from the movie.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a movie lover who appreciates both the sound effects and the music score, I've often admired the way the movie's sound engineer made tough choices when he had to chose between allowing the sound effects to be louder than the beautiful music, whenever a scene required it.

This balance between the two is necessary for the sake of the movie experience itself.

As a result, when we buy the soundtrack album or CD and listen to it, we marvel at the pieces of music which were overshadowed by the louder sound effects during the movie!

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