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Steve Joyce · Solar Explorer Joined: 14 Dec 2013 Posts: 64

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Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tnAyARsmAw

Steve
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Bongopete · Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:40 am Post subject:

Hey Steve, thanks! I didnt know that there was an even earlier version. Will have to watch this later.

Bud Brewster · Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject:

Thanks, Steve!

As you know, I don't like subtitles, and this movie doesn't have them. Good.

Unfortunately it isn't dubbed either, and I don't speak Russian. Bad.

Does anybody know how to say "bummer" in Russian?
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Bongopete · Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:06 pm Post subject:

Lentyay!!!!!

I thought the site said that it WAS subtitled.

Maurice · Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:09 am Post subject:

It IS subtitled. You just have to switch on the Closed Captioning by clicking on the CC button in the YouTube player and make sure it's set to ON.
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scotpens · Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:29 am Post subject:

Bud Brewster · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:51 pm Post subject:

Ah, sir, we shall have to agree to disagree. Consider the two options.

We can watch a movie in which the characters speak English, but their lips don't match the words. Annoying, yes -- mostly just in the close-ups.

Or we can watch a movie in which the lips movements perfectly match the words -- but the words make no sense because we don't speak the language.

But wait! It doesn't matter what their lips are doing anyway because we're too busy reading all those rapidly changing subtitles at the bottom of the screen!

In other words, even if their lips did not match the words spoken, I wouldn't even know it because I'm not looking at their lips while their speaking! Shocked

So I guess I'll just stick to dubbed versions and wait for the day when computers can make subtle changes in the movie so that the words we hear match the movements of the actor's lips.

Hey, don't laugh. They'll figure out how do this someday!
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Brent Gair · Mission Specialist Joined: 21 Nov 2014 Posts: 466

I think this is just a question of getting used to subtitles.

I have a huge number of subtitled movies but I'm usually completely oblivious to the fact that I'm reading dialogue.

Unlike some people (I won't mention any names Smile

), my peripheral vision allows to me follow the subtitles and the screen action at the same time.

Seriously, though, this is really just a matter of giving subs a chance. Once you've watched a few subtitled movies, it becomes a non-issue. Honestly, if you were to ask me if the movie I just watched was in the original language with subtitles or dubbed...I probably wouldn't be able to tell you. My brain assembles everything in English and matches it to the actors regardless of whether the words are written or spoken.

Most importantly, there are a LOT of movies that are only available in subtitled form. Tarkovsky's SOLARIS is an obvious example (which, not surprisingly, I have on Blu-ray)...Russian only with English subs. Who would deny themselves a chance to see this because of subtitle prejudice (a "subtitlist"?).

Pity the horror fan who doesn't like subtitles. If you cut off your access to subtitled Japanese and Italian films, you are missing some of the most influential films ever made.

The issue of subtitles and silent films needs a thread (maybe in the off-topic section). If I have the energy, I'll start a thread myself. If somebody want's to get the jump on me, feel free.

Bud Brewster · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:15 pm Post subject:

It's not a prejudice, it's a preference. Reading subtitles is like reading posts -- instead of having a face-to-face conversation. You can't write in a "tone of voice".

Example: "I just love sarcasm."

Do I really like sarcasm? Or am I just being sarcastic?

See what I mean? Very Happy

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Robert (Butch) Day · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject:

In other "words", more like the non-intonations of COLOSSUS.
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scotpens · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject:

Bud Brewster · Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject:

Maurice · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:22 am Post subject:

The old link above no longer works. The film can still be seen here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tnAyARsmA

Use the Settings to pick the English subtitles and make sure the closed captioning (CC) is on.
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Maurice · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:34 am Post subject:

Here's an article on this little-remembered TV adaptation, which also contrasts it with the Tarkovsky film of a few years later.

Exploring the original Soviet TV adaptation of ‘Solaris’

How does this little-seen artefact compare with Stanisław Lem’s novel and Andrei Tarkovsky’s 1971 epic?

A salient quote: