ALL SCI-FI Forum Index ALL SCI-FI
The place to “find your people.”
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Humanity might have received a signal from aliens

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ALL SCI-FI Forum Index -> SCIENCE now, add FICTION later
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Gord Green
Galactic Ambassador


Joined: 06 Oct 2014
Posts: 3001
Location: Buffalo, NY

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:52 pm    Post subject: Humanity might have received a signal from aliens Reply with quote

https://www.yahoo.com/news/humanity-might-received-message-aliens-091100560.html

Humanity might have received a signal from aliens that it isn't checking, says Harvard professor

Andrew Griffin,The Independent 18 hours ago
Scientists might have found proof of alien life but misunderstood it, according to a professor at Harvard University.

Strange radio waves that have been reaching Earth might actually be leakage from a huge, light-powered ship deep in space.

Fast radio bursts (FRB), which have perplexed scientists since they were discovered in 2007, could be evidence of advanced alien technology, according to Avi Loeb of the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics. Researchers, however, remain far from establishing whether the source of these "messages" is what Loeb speculates it is — leakage from planet-sized transmitters that are powering interstellar probes in distant galaxies.

"Fast radio bursts are exceedingly bright given their short duration and origin at great distances, and we haven't identified a possible natural source with any confidence," Loeb has said. "An artificial origin is worth contemplating and checking."

Fast radio bursts are flashes of radio emissions lasting milliseconds whose source is yet to be identified. They were first picked up in 2007 when scientists came across data that showed a burst had occurred in 2001. While few have happened since that time, scientists have discerned that FRB arrive in apparently organised patterns.

Loeb and fellow Harvard academic Manasvi Lingam have explored whether the messages could emanate from a radio transmitter, in a paper to be published by The Astrophysical Journal Letters. This would require a planet-sized solar-power generator to pelt messages across the galaxy.

Such technology is far beyond human capability now, the Harvard scientists note, but it is not beyond the laws of physics or out of the reach of a very developed alien civilisation.

Loeb and Lingam found such a technology would require so much energy it would just end up melting itself — unless it were water-cooled and twice the size of the Earth.

What is less clear is why an alien civilisation would build such a thing in the first place. But the researchers speculate that the energy being sent out is driving interstellar light sails, where spacecraft ride along on light waves in the same way a boat moves through the ocean. Whatever is generating the FRBs is powerful enough to push around something weighing a million tons, or about 20 times the biggest cruise ships ever built.

"That's big enough to carry living passengers across interstellar or even intergalactic distances," said Lingam.

To power such a craft the transmitter would have to be constantly pointing its beam towards wherever the ship was in space. If that were happening we would only pick up brief flashes of energy because the ship itself, the planet powering it, and its own star and galaxy would all be constantly moving too.

That would explain why the burst comes to Earth repeatedly but intermittently. (Scientists haven't been able to explain FRB patterns with reference to the huge astrophysical events required to dispatch huge amounts of energy towards us.)

It would also explain the frequency that the radio waves are pitched at. The optimal frequency for powering such a light sail is similar to the FRBs that have been detected, according to the professors.

Loeb says that his work is speculative and that more work must be done to check whether such an idea would be possible. It doesn't matter whether or not he believes that they are caused by aliens, he said.
"Science isn't a matter of belief, it's a matter of evidence. Deciding what's likely ahead of time limits the possibilities. It's worth putting ideas out there and letting the data be the judge."

The paper, "Fast Radio Bursts from Extragalactic Light Sails", is already available online.

It speculates on the mass of the hypothetical light sail and the angular velocity that any beam would be sent at.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Bud Brewster
Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)


Joined: 14 Dec 2013
Posts: 17637
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Found a great video on the subject.
__________________________________


Evidence of Alien Technology? Fast Radio Bursts update for 03/10/17


__________

_________________
____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ALL SCI-FI Forum Index -> SCIENCE now, add FICTION later All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group