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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:35 pm Post subject: X2: X-Men United (2003) |
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As far as I'm concerned, they didn't make any bad X-Men movies. In fact, they're all really good!
This one has a slam-bang opening scene in which the teleporting "Nightcrawler" invades the Oval office, kicks Secret Service asses until they're ready to run home to mommy, and sits on the Chief Executives chest while threatening him with a dagger with a message attach to it.
"Mutant Freedom Now!"
Nightcrawler leaves the dagger stuck in the desk next to the President and teleports out.
When I consulted the Wikipedia plot summary for this, it started with a puzzling statement. "At the White House, brainwashed teleporting mutant Nightcrawler attempts to assassinate the President of the United States, but fails and escapes."
That puzzled me when I first read it. I'd always thought Nightcrawler's assault was just an "attention getter" — it was only meant to scare the piss out of the Commander in Chief as a protest against mutant mistreatment.
But I looked it up, and one site states that Striker brainwashed Nightcrawler to the kill he President so that the tide of public opinion would turn against them.
Somehow I'd missed that fact.
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The story's various dramatic conflicts are well craft: Magneto is in prison, but makes a dramatic escape. Colonel Stryker has a personal grudge against mutants and doesn't care who has to kill to achieve his goal. Some of the mutant kids are happy to wear Good Guy white hats, while others are eager to follow Magneto.
And Wolverine desperately needs to know why his the most dangerous orphan on planet Earth!
The fight between Wolverine and Yuriko in the adamantium smelting lab was a thrill-a-second, and the way he beat her was brilliant!
In short, this is a remarkable movie with plenty of great moments for X-Men fans.
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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johnnybear Mission Specialist

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The newer X Men prequels don't sort of match up with the older films! Which sort of relegates them to either alternate futures or other universes!
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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You're right, JB. Hollywood filmmakers just love to take a long-established franchise and re-invent key elements . . . just for the fun of it.
I can't blame 'em for wanting to put their own spin on the concepts and the characters, because I constantly do that on All Sci-Fi just for the fun of it!
But those filmmakers disappoint the fans when they toss out parts of the franchise history and start doing things that aren't consistent with past films.  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm also a huge fan of The X-Men films, Bruce.
Interesting that they originally debuted in September of 1963 in Marvel Comics and ran for 66-issues before their cancellation.
The team was never as popular as the other Marvel comic book teams such as The Fantastic Four or The Avengers.
They were revived in comic book form in 1975.
Lots of controversy over the possibility that Marvel swiped their idea for The X-Men from DC Comics The Doom Patrol.
TDP debuted earlier in 1963 before The X-Men.
Some say that given the immense amount of start-up time required for a new comic, that Marvel could not have seen TDP come out first and then be able to create & produce an X-Men comic the same year.
Others say it could be done because Marvel's writers and artists and DC's writers and artists know one another and travel for assignments between the two companies.
So perhaps Marvel did hear some scuttlebutt about the brand new DP comic book from DC.
Ironically, TDP was DC's answer to Marvel's popular Fantastic Four which came out a couple of years prior to TDP.
However, it was the remarkable similarities between TDP & TXM that everybody noticed.
Both teams are lead by a brilliant wheelchair-bound scientist. Both teams are feared rather than admired by the general public.
The Brotherhood of Evil are the primary foes of TDP.
The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants were the main adversaries for TXM.
I imagine the debate will go on for years if Marvel pulled a fast one on DC.
At any rate, I remain a fan of both comics, as well as The X-Men films and the incredible Doom Patrol TV series. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Mike, your comment about how The Fantastic Four comics were more successful than the X-Men comics is interesting in view of the fact that the few The Fantastic Four movies have not done well, while the X-Men movies are numerous and popular!
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