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10 Movies That Hollywood Won't Let You See
Gwynne Watkins, Yahoo Movies

1. The Day the Clown Cried (1972)
2. Skatetown, U.S.A. (1979)
3. Cocksucker Blues (1972)
4. Song of the South(1946)
5. Don's Plum (2001)
6. Frat House (1998)
7. Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four (1994)
8. The Brave (1997)
9. Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (1987)
10. Nothing Lasts Forever (1984)

LINK TO FULL STORY:
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/10-movies-that-hollywood-wont-let-you-see-105567674127.html

Bud Brewster · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:57 am Post subject:

Interesting article. I've seen Song of the South recently (a few years ago) and it's wonderful. People who think it doesn't condemn slavery really missed the message.

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scotpens · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject:

Bud Brewster · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject:

Hey, you're right! I remember that now. What I was especially impressed by was the way the former slaves showed courage and nobility in spite of their very unjust social status. They treated everyone with equal kindness and respect, regardless of race.

Uncle Remus, for example, had an extremely positive influence on the young children -- all of the children.
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Brent Gair · Mission Specialist Joined: 21 Nov 2014 Posts: 472

I think too many people today are LOOKING to find ways to be offended.

I note that the 1965 movie HOW TO MURDER YOUR WIFE is getting a Blu-ray release.

Now, 50 years of "progress" later, what are the chances that a studio would release a movie with that title? There would be internet outrage about promoting violence toward women. Producers would be forced to apologize on Entertainment Tonight.

Bud Brewster · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:03 am Post subject:

That is an excellent point, Brent. I have the poor-quality Blu-ray of that movie, and even though it's not a great comedy (the music has moments that plum run the mood), but the hysterical court room scene proves your point completely.

Jack Lemmon draws a chalk dot on the rail of the witness stand in front of Paul Ford and tells him to imagine it's a button which, if pressed, will cause Ford's bossy, nagging wife to vanish.

Lemmon does such a great job of quietly describing how wonderful Paul's life will be without his horrible spouse that every married man in the courtroom is glassy-eyed and grinning at the thought of being freed from wedded hell.

Brent, you're dead-on about this movie being about as non-PC as they get. Women in general and wives in particular are portrayed as every man's worst nightmare.
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Robert (Butch) Day · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:48 am Post subject:

All the bad publicity about Song of the South would simply disappear if it wasn't for ONE PERSON who simply hates the film. That person has had enough Hollywood clout to embarrass Disney where they won't even consider releasing it.

That person is ??? Bill Cosby.

Which is sad because the movie is an adaptation of the Joel Chandler Harris (December 9, 1848 ??? July 3, 1908) Uncle Remus stories, which he heard first hand from sharecroppers/former slaves on a plantation in Eatonton, Georgia, where he served as an apprentice on a plantation during his teenage years.

Harris led two professional lives: as the editor and journalist known as Joe Harris, he supported a vision of the New South with the editor Henry W. Grady (1880???1889), stressing regional and racial reconciliation after the Reconstruction era. As Joel Chandler Harris, fiction writer and folklorist, he wrote many 'Brer Rabbit' stories from the African-American oral tradition and helped to revolutionize literature in the process.

(info from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Chandler_Harris )
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Pow · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:23 pm Post subject:

Bud, that's actor Eddie Mayehoff pictured. Paul Ford did not appear in HTMYW.

Virna Lisi, the beautiful wife in question in the film, passed away this week.

Bud Brewster · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:30 pm Post subject:

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By gum, Pow, you're right! I should have checked my names first. Thanks for the correction! Very Happy

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And thanks to you, Butch, for the wonderful info about Mr. Harris. Maybe Disney will stop paying quite so much attention to Cosby now that he's not held in such high regard these days. Sad

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Bud Brewster · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:31 am Post subject:

Well, we'll have to courteously sit on opposite sides of the fence, David. Jack didn't seem lost without his Italian hottie, he just couldn't stand up to her and be a man until he finally did it in his comic strip. When Jack became a henpecked hubby, Bash became a whimp - - and Jack hated himself for it.

And she learned just how miserable she was making him when she saw the comic strip in which Brash murders his wife!

As for his friend Howard, he too taught that harpy wife of his a lesson in exactly the same way, and I imagine things were pretty different around his house after he showed her who wore the pants in the family.

Now, about the music. Most of it was wonderful -- but that audio assault that blasted out during the Bash Brannigan role-play scenes spoiled what was supposed to be a cool secret agent at work. So, instead of hearing something like the James Bond theme --

-- we got police whistles and a brassy Keystone Kop theme. Please tell me this isn't the music you liked from the movie. Sad

Try the following experiment: Start both the above videos in separate windows, but turn the sound off on the "How To -- " video and listen to the 007 theme while you watch Bash do his stuff!

Quite a difference, eh? Very Happy

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Pow · Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject:

Unsure as to how Hollywood figures into The Day The Clown Cried.

My understanding is that Jerry Lewis owns the rights to it legally & he's the one keeping it locked in his safe & refusing to release it.

Rocky Jones · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:41 pm Post subject:

I've watched Roger Corman???s The Fantastic Four (more or less) and so can you right now if you want. It's been on YouTube for awhile. It says Sept 2013, but I'll swear I watched before then, so it may have been posted more than once. Let's just say it's not very memorable. Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbMaPdofB4

Bud Brewster · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:52 pm Post subject:

I agree, Rocky. It's a curiosity, not a classic. The sad thing is, I heard that during the filming the actors weren't told the movie was never intended for release. Sad

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Krel · Guest

I do like the circus music during the action scenes, I think it fits the movie. Now, if the movie had started with the action scene, I think that a more serious action music would have been appropriate.

The impression I got from the movie, is that he loved his wife, but hated the changes that he had made to his comic character. His wife left him after she saw the strip, and realized what he had done to her.

David.