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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:59 pm Post subject: Conquest of Space (1955) |
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Ambitious in scope, undeniably action-packed: George Pal's third 1950s sci-fi film is loaded with glorious, Technicolor special effects that rival "2001: A Space Odyssey" (supervised by John P. Fulton).
Unfortunately, the movie suffers mightily from the embarrassing performances of some of its stars. The script contains several ethnic stereo-types which are just short of tasteless ethnic jokes. Perhaps the film's worst flaw is its choice of "villains" — a mission commander who goes crazy from reading the Bible too much. The message isn't really anti-religious, but it can easily be misinterpreted as such.
However, if you're able to get around this particular flaw, "Conquest of Space" is a wonderful science fiction adventure. Impressive sets and props by art directors Hal Pereira and Joseph MacMillan Johnson. Excellent music by Van Cleave ("The Space Children", "The Colossus of New York").
Directed by Byron Haskin. Starring Eric Fleming, Benson Fong, Phil Foster, Ross Martin, Mickey Shaughnessy, Walter Brooke, and William Hopper. Based on a book by Willy Ley and Chesley Bonestell (who also provided the space art). _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:55 am Post subject: |
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After having seen this movie only once as a callow youth and being mesmerized by the visuals, my next opportunity to watch it came as a college student at a campus screening, double-billed with Metropolis. That experience changed my whole perspective on the movie.
Conquest was screened first. Right out of the starting gate the audience began chuckling at every line of dialog or, by that time, visual cliche (the movie being full of them). My innocence was stripped away and I saw the movie in a completely different light, hopelessly dated and stuck in time. (For Metropolis, on the other hand, the room remained hushed in reverential silence.)
Still, I admire those fine miniatures and marvelous visualizations to this day. _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Good anecdote, Wayne. It describes what we've all experienced at some point in our lives, either with this movies or another — and often with several formerly beloved films.
It's always puzzled me that George Pal got it so right with Destination Moon, When Worlds Collide, and The Time Machine — and got it so wrong with The Conquest of Space. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Robert (Butch) Day Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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You forgot about the TIME period in which it was made. The anti-communist witch-hunts of Senator Joseph McCarthy and his House Un-American Activities Committee, hmm?
Hollywood was terrified and many movies which would otherwise be fine were ruined by this. _________________ Common Sense ISN'T Common |
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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At the time this was produced it was very state of the art as far as the visuals were concerned.
Unfortunately it fell into the cold war post WW2 mentality of translating the "Army-Navy" experience and transposing it into the future. Spacemen were going to be like drafted soldiers and a ship's crew were to be like WW2 submarine crews and the story angles went from there.
Still, these aside it was visually striking and the Chesley Bonestall concept art was perfect 50's art. It, along with DESTINATION MOON and FORBIDDEN PLANET marks the best of 50's sci-fi. |
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Dang it! I'm going to pull out my DVD and set it aside for watching tomorrow night. _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oddly enough, one of the quoted reviews in the Wikipedia article for Conquest of Space is this rather puzzling and unkind remark.
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The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction said "The special effects are quite ambitious but clumsily executed, in particular the matte work."
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I think The Encyclopedia of Sci-Fi was written years later, so the author may have been judging the 1950s FX based on standards from decades later. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Some of the bluescreen shots did come out obviously matted, such as the "taxi" between the Mars ship and the space station, even to a kid back in the day. Largely, however, the sfx were high quality in comparison with other sci-fi titles back then. _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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orzel-w wrote: | I'm going to pull out my DVD and set it aside for watching tomorrow night. |
Well, I did. It was beautifully painful.
Any scene involving miniatures was lovely. The traveling mattes left something to be desired, but it was up to the standards of the day. (Even some bluescreen shots in DeMille's The Ten Commandmants suffered from the same difficulties.) One glitch I spotted this time for the first time was in the press room of Trans-World Communications. They had the obligatory bank of world-time clocks on the wall behind the announcer; in this case, six clocks labeled by cities in those time zones. Five of the clocks were synced at 29 minutes past the hour, but one clock, labeled as "Bombay", read 8:58.
I guess they've got their own thing goin' there.
But the real teeth grinders occurred anytime any dialog was spoken, together with certain actors bordering on melodramatic. Or maybe not even bordering. I'm not that clear on where the border lies.
Now that it's behind me once again, however, I can look back and smile... as soon as the lingering pain wears off. _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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Rick Space Ranger

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, they do have their own thing going on in India. I've had to learn this the hard way. My son is currently studying in Southern India and he is 9 1/2 hours ahead of New York time.
I don't know why they do it, but I know it's real. So that's not a mistake. Actually, it shows a surprising attention to detail. _________________ Man need not kneel before the angels,
Nor lie in death forever,
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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orzel-w wrote: | But the real teeth grinders occurred anytime any dialog was spoken, together with certain actors bordering on melodramatic. |
Yep, that's the problem all right. A script that had high points and low points as different as the mountains and valleys in Tibet. It's like the little girl, who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead. When the script was good, it was very very good. But it when it was bad . . . it sucked!
For example, Sgt. Imoto's speech about how Japan's lack of natural resources might be the fate of the world someday is very moving.
Sgt. Siegle's dialog, however, is like a bad Vaudeville comedian before the hook comes out and yanks him off stage.
Admittedly that scene in front of the big TV with his girlfriend, Rosie (that "two-timin' tomato!") is funny every time I watch it. .
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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orzel-w Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Rick wrote: | My son is currently studying in Southern India and he is 9 1/2 hours ahead of New York time. |
Well I'll be... I just checked Bombay time, and they are a half-hour off.  _________________ ...or not...
WayneO
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Brent Gair Mission Specialist
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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The Canadian province of Newfoundland also has a 30 minute offset in it's time zone.
9:00PM Eastern Standard Time is 9:30PM Newfoundland Standard Time. |
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scotpens Space Sector Commander

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Robert (Butch) Day wrote: | You forgot about the TIME period in which it was made. The anti-communist witch-hunts of Senator Joseph McCarthy and his House Un-American Activities Committee, hmm? |
Uh, Senator Joe McCarthy and the House Committee on Un-American Activities had nothing directly to do with one another. Different houses of Congress, right?
There were the postwar HUAC investigations into alleged Communist influence in the entertainment media. And then there were Senator McCarthy's accusations that the State Department was riddled with Communists and that the Army was "soft" on Communism, resulting in the Army-McCarthy hearings in 1954. Two different things. |
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely true.
But, I think he was referring to the zietgiest (spirit of the times) rather than the literal combination of the two movements.
Still, the movie suffers from the same thing many post WW2 films did. It perpetuated concepts that could only be viewed as anachronistic by future viewers. |
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