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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: Countdown (1967) |
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Two years before NASA put Neil Armstrong on the Moon, director Robert Altman put James Caan there in this serious treatment of both the technical problems of a lunar landing and the personal lives of people who make it possible.
The lunar landing takes place near the end of the film. "Countdown" works so hard (and succeeds so well) at realistically depicting this now-historic event, when it's viewed today it tends to look like an inaccurate documentary instead of fantasy version of history (the way "Destination Moon" does).
There's even a near-miss parallel of Apollo 11's race with the unmanned Russian probe that crashed on the Moon during Apollo 11's mission. In Countdown a manned Russian spacecraft beats the American astronaut to the Moon, but Caan finds the dead cosmonauts in their crashed spacecraft.
Desert locations are used to portray the lunar surface (as opposed to matte paintings and indoor sets such those used in Destination Moon). Unfortunately the lunar surface is brown when it's just a shot of desert location on Earth, but it blue whenever a star-filled sky and lunar landscape horizon are added.
All in all, a worthy attempt to second guess reality, and an interesting drama in its own right, despite the fact that the dialog between astronaut Caan and Robert Duvall in Mission Control seems to far too emotional and melodramatic compared the the hundreds of hours of actually NASA communications we've heard for decades.
The cast includes Charles Aidman, Barbara Baxley, Robert Duvall, Steve Ihnat, Ted Knight, Joanna Moore, and Michael Murphy. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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I haven't seen this one since it played at an Air Force base theater in 1968 in Korea. I'm tempted to watch it again. This trailer doesn't pitch it all that well, but I think it might be worth a second viewing.
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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bulldogtrekker Space Sector Admiral

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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, we saw this a year and a half ago. I don't remember what source we downloaded this movie from. I liked it better than you. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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bulldogtrekker wrote: | Hey, we saw this a year and a half ago. I don't remember what source we downloaded this movie from. I liked it better than you. |
On second thought, Tim, I've come to appreciate it a bit more. We should try it again sometime if we get a second chance.
That would be . . . really great. (* sigh *)  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Bogmeister Galactic Fleet Vice Admiral (site admin)

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________________________ Countdown - clip
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co-starring JOANNA MOORE*CHARLES AIDMAN*STEVE IHNAT*BARBARA BAXLEY
Directed by ROBERT ALTMAN
Another filmed look at getting an astronaut to the moon, this is like an early version of APOLLO 13 (1995) and the HBO Series FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON, with similar astronaut characters and their wives.
One could argue that this one is even more authentic because it was made during the sixties, right before the actual moon mission in '69, while the later films had to recreate that sixties atmosphere. Or, this is like a low budget version of MAROONED (69), the big budget film which involved a mission in Earth orbit.
In COUNTDOWN, they send a small habitat to the moon first, then a single astronaut is to follow and live there for 9 months or so. I found this strategy to be odd. It's also an interesting look at an early Altman (M*A*S*H) directing effort, where he already was trying naturalistic dialog scenes.
This was also an early pairing of stars Caan & Duvall, who would appear together in several more films, like THE GODFATHER and THE KILLER ELITE (75). Ihnat is the NASA administrator in charge. Michael Murphy has an early small role here as another astronaut and Ted Knight is a press secretary.
It's based on the novel "The Pilgrim Project" — that's NASA's name for this mission.
Though the film looks accurate overall and even documentary-styled in places, it falls short in the drama department, with some of the character scenes coming across as contrived and false.
Duvall, an air force officer, plays the astronaut who was meant to go on the moon mission but, for political reasons, policymakers decide that a civilian needs to go rather than a military man, so Caan is selected (the Russians are ahead of us slightly in this version of the space race, sending up civilians and they actually land on the moon first — sorry, USA fans).
This creates an almost childish antagonism between the Caan and Duvall characters. Aidman's doctor character is the worst, however. He keeps trying to convince Caan that it's too unsafe for him to go, but his reasoning is sort of like warning someone not to cross a street because there's a chance that they may get hit by a car someday. I just didn't see any sense to Aidman's concerns and found him to be quite annoying by the start of the 2nd hour.
 
The worst fault of the film, though, is that it's simply dull.
Altman does try to lend a realistic tone to everything but it's as if he tried too hard. It's like watching the day-to-day experiences of some acquaintances similar to your own dull day-to-day life — you can't really expect to get excited by such a story.
There's no excitement generated by the time Caan actually does go into space. There's a strange lack of tension, especially as it's the first time man is going this far.
Caan does encounter a problem when he reaches the moon (and, by this time, it was a realistic depiction of the moon surface, though obviously filmed in the U.S. desert somewhere), but it remains a boring exercise and ends abruptly at the point when we would expect a dramatic pay-off.
Still, this can be interesting as a version of the actual moon landing, just one year beforehand. Back then, in '68, it seems like everyone took for granted that the actual moon landing would happen very soon.
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