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ralfy Mission Specialist

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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to seeing Timeless.
I see based upon the previews that the premise shares a similarity to the 2006 reboot of Irwin Allen's The Time Tunnel.
Both shows are having a team traveling back in time in order to correct problems in order to restore the timeline properly.
In TTT time disruptions were caused accidentally by time storms which swept through various eras.
In Timeless it appears that a criminal has stolen a time machine & gone back in time in order to alter situations. Now a time team must pursue & capture him & restore the time line. |
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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The unsold pilot for The Time Tunnel reboot was awesome, another great show that should have run for years. Apparently brains are optional for network executives, and most of them choose to opt out.
I missed the pilot for Timeless last night, but apparently NBC is showing it again on Friday at 8:00 EST, so there really is a God and I've been forgiven for all my major sins.  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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There was a pilot like this a few years back. A particle collider opens a portal through time. After an unknown period of time, the portal switches to another time, and location. The portal shows a ruined city in the future. They figure out what caused it, and how to stop it. A team of three, spy/special forces guy with a tragic past, black guy and female scientist who doesn't like spy/special forces guys have to go through the portal into the past, correct the situation, and return before the portal switches. The people had to stay in the collider complex, because the time field from the portal keeps them isolated from the changes that happen in the rest of the world.
Sorry I can't be more specific, it was years ago.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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That sounds a lot like the unsold pilot for the 2002 reboot of The Time Tunnel. Here's what IMDB says about it.
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Unaired 2002 attempt to relaunch Irwin Allen's original series "The Time Tunnel".
In this version, a secret Dept. of Energy project to create "hot fusion" instead creates a "storm" in time. It takes the scientists four hours (240 minutes) to lock down one end of the storm, while the other is still randomly sweeping across the time stream.
When they leave their bunker, the scientists discover that the "two-forty" (the 240 minutes the storm was out of control), caused random changes to the fabric of history, and only they know the true history of the world.
Now the scientists must send teams back through the time tunnel to correct major errors the storm created. DOE employee Doug Phillips is recruited into the group because of his particular knowledge of a World War 2 battle, where the Time Tunnel team must go in order to stop an outbreak of the Black Plague.
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What do you think, Krel? Could that be the one you're remembering.
As for Timeless, I just finished reading several of the reviews by the omnipotent, omniscient, and obnoxious "critics", and none of them seem to feel a strong urge to marry this show and bear it's children. They all sort of "like it". But they talk about how it isn't this, and it didn't do that, it should have done something else.
I have a new theory about critics.
No one should be allowed to write reviews for movies, TV shows, or novels unless they themselves have created a successful movie, TV show, or novel.
That way we wouldn't have to listen to people who don't really know their anal cavity from Carlsbad Caverns tell us what the truly creative people did wrong.
Here, for example, is what Matt Fowler at IGN said about the new show. Bear in mind, this is one of the more positive comments.
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The Verdict
Timeless is fun, but also fairly skin and bones. Given how labyrinthine and complex some time travel odysseys can be, this is a chewable vitamin. It's not bad, it's just not challenging - and that more than anything else seems to be the hallmark of a "network" series, unfortunately. Escapism, but without too much depth. Still, that's not to say the show can't grow and become more than just one-off jaunts through American history.
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So, this guy thinks Timeless isn't a "challenging" time travel story. He seems to have forgotten that many people didn't like Back the Future II because it confused the poor darlin's.
And that was the wonderful movie which spoon-fed time travel concepts to the masses and made it so much fun to pay attention that only the folks who dropped out high school at the end of first week had trouble following the story!
So, it seems to me that all these professional critics don't want anybody to think that something less "challenging" than Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity could possibly deserve their praise. If they said the show was great . . . and then it bombed in the ratings, they'd have to suffer the shame of liking something that wasn't popular!
Oh God. That would be horrible!!!  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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bulldogtrekker Space Sector Admiral

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the first episode last night and I thought it was excellent. There is something about seeing the Hindenburg overhead in the sky and in color that looked very real. I also realized it was in the style of that Time Tunnel pilot. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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No Bud, it wasn't the Time Tunnel remake, although I have heard that it is good. There was another character in the pilot. He was the tech guy, that made them all kinds of gadgets, including insect-like drones for scouting the way ahead of time. The drones would self-destruct leaving no trace of themselves to contaminate the timeline. I think that the character may have been played by Nick Mancuso.
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:25 am Post subject: |
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In the scene with the stolen timeship as it diminishes to nothingness there is a homage to TIME TUNNEL .
The visual is of the concentric circles of the tunnel appearing in the "eye" of the hatch. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Krel wrote: | No Bud, it wasn't the Time Tunnel remake, although I have heard that it is good. |
Are you sure? I can't find anything that was "a pilot like this a few years back" that bears such a strong resemblance to the The Time Tunnel reboot. And if you haven't seen that one, how do you know it isn't it?
Take a look at it and see, just to be sure.
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Custer Space Sector Commander

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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I watched that first episode of "Timeless" last night (and "Westworld" too), and can't say I was over-impressed with it. It was okay, and bringing in the Hindenburg was a nice idea, but it wasn't a big-star, big-budget deal. I was reminded of "Legends of Tomorrow" when our trio landed their machine in May 1937, though we don't get superheroics here.
It's difficult to say too much without giving away the plot and its ramifications, but if we have a touch of Ray Bradbury's "A Sound of Thunder" after just one journey, how different is the present-day world going to get after the team have had a whole season's worth of adventures? The main male lead doesn't really have to worry about his wife's recent death, if he steps on a butterfly on the next trip to the past, the chances are she'll be alive when he gets back. Maybe...
Anyway, it was good to have the newsreel commentator's "Oh, the humanity!" included (see Wikipedia for the full transcript), surely one of the most memorable soundbites of the last century.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Great! I've never seen it, and I've downloaded it from Youtube. I'll watch it today. _________________ ____________
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:21 am Post subject: |
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The scenes with the Hindenberg & the Lakehurst field were absolutely stunning to see on Timeless.
Movie quality visual FX.
The magic of CGI & Virtual Sets will allow Timeless to recreate historical events like no time travel tv show before was able to pull off.
The Time Tunnel (1966) had to resort to stock footage from motion pictures & practical sets & costumes to show other eras from history.
Timeless may have to resort to those same tricks for their show, but today's state of the art tech will allow it to utilize tools never available before to bring the past alive.
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