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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Given the orientation of the ship's internal layout, I'd say that it was suppose to be a belly lander. Even if there was a booster engine in space, the ship had to be very large. They were on a one-way journey, so they would have needed to carry everything they would heeded to keep them alive for the rest of their lives.
It may have looked like the ship in the artwork Bud posted.
Sticking that far out of the water, at least 90 to 95 percent of the ship had to be underwater, like with an iceberg.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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POW wrote: | Coincidentally, Roddy McDowall (Cornelius) was the guest star on an episode of The Twilight Zone. The 1960 episode was "People Are Alike All Over" and found Roddy as an Earth astronaut who goes to another planet where the aliens place him in their zoo as a specimen. |
Hey, I love that TZ episode! It's one of the few actual science fiction stories in that whole series (I'm sorry to say).
But I never realized just how much the basic premise had in common with Planet of the Apes.
Cool! _________________ ____________
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johnnybear Mission Specialist
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Charlton Heston was the man who got the film made, so why would they want any other actor than this giant of a star?
The Icarus, if we are going to call the spaceship that, might not have, actually crashed in Dead Lake as we always thought but could have been brought under the control of the mutants in the ruins of New York City and the illusion of it sinking being enough for the inhabitants to leave the area and find out their own destiny?
If this was the only film in the series made, then we would have to say the ship sunk as we saw, but with the second film we learn of the mental powers these people possess that it is not without possibility! Plus Brent's ship was crushed in the desert landing, so we know that the ship that returned home was Taylor's, according to the President (William Windom). So, how else could Corneillius, Zira, and Milo launch the ship if all it's systems had broken down and later on been swamped by the cold waters of the Dead Lake?
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Maurice Starship Navigator
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Pow wrote: | Rod Serling said that he spent well over a year adapting the novel to the silver screen and did 30 or 40 drafts. |
Exaggeration for effect I am sure. To do 30 or 40 drafts would have taken forever.
Quote: | 20th Century Fox delayed the release of TPOTA in order to see how their other big budget science-fiction movie, "Fantastic Voyage," would do at the box office. Once FV proved to be a big smash Fox went forward with releasing TPOTA. |
Except Fantastic Voyage came out in Aug.–Sept. 1966, and Apes wouldn't even start filming until the following spring, and finally was released a year and a half after FV. If anything, Fox might've delayed production of the film until seeing how FV did. _________________ * * *
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I tried to find the source of your quote below, but I wasn't successful. Please tell us where it came from.
Quote: | 20th Century Fox delayed the release of TPOTA in order to see how their other big budget science-fiction movie, "Fantastic Voyage," would do at the box office. Once FV proved to be a big smash Fox went forward with releasing TPOTA. |
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Found the trivia on good ole' IMDB, Bud. Surprised you were unable to verify it.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Pow wrote: | Found the trivia on good ole' IMDB, Bud. Surprised you were unable to verify it. |
Good Lord, I was afraid this would happen! I'm 73 today and clearly on the decline, mentally and physically. Don't be surprised if my typos get even worse, if that's even passable . . . pressable . . . possible. _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:40 am Post subject: |
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First, I hope you'll have a wonderful birthday today, Bruce. Do something fun! Do a lot of somethings fun!
Secondly, 73 is the new 63.
Third, any day above ground is a good day.
Fourth, when it comes to aging always remember: Mind over matter. I don't mind and it doesn't matter.
"If I knew I was going to live this long I would have treated my body much better," James "Maverick/Rockford" Garner.
Happy Trails my friend.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Mike! For the last two hours I've been meaning to start my Timecop marathon (the DVD of the movie, and then the TV series you posted about, using the YouTube videos).
But I keep seeing those new posts you and Trekriffic have made, and I can't resist the urge to add replies whenever I come up with something to add.
Guess I'll get started with that now.
If I'm not back by last Friday, please file a missing persons report with the Timecops. I might need rescuing from an old girlfriend who still wants to marry me despite my age . . . after she finds out I was pretty smart about saving money for my retirement!
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Maurice Starship Navigator
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | I tried to find the source of your quote below, but I wasn't successful. Please tell us where it came from.
Quote: | 20th Century Fox delayed the release of TPOTA in order to see how their other big budget science-fiction movie, "Fantastic Voyage," would do at the box office. Once FV proved to be a big smash Fox went forward with releasing TPOTA. |
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Regardless of the source, as per my previous post above, this "trivia" is demonstrably false. _________________ * * *
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well, my goodness, Maurice! I never doubted it for a minute! _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Background information on the legendary John Chambers from Making a Monster by Al Taylor and Sue Roy.
After graduating from high school John designed jewelry and then carpeting.
He became a dental technician when he joined the U.S. Army.
A gifted sculptor & artist, John found himself able to experiment with various forms of plastics, and he was able to develop new adhesives & rubber compounds.
Some of his experience came from working in the army's Fitzsimmons General Hospital in Denver, Colorado.
, and then later in Santa Maria, California, where he spent three years creating prosthetic devices such as artificial noses & ears for wounded soldiers.
God bless you for that Mr. Chambers.
John eventually found his way to the Hines Veterans Hospital. He was in charge of prosthetic devices. He would follow surgeons into the operating rooms, making anatomical notations.
"It makes me feel good to know I can help people," Chambers said. "God put it there, and it comes easy."
In 1953 television was just starting to grow. Chambers began to notice that what he was doing in his realm was a far superior job to what he saw come out of television.
He set his sights to Hollywood and brought scientific techniques that no one else was familiar with.
There were, of course, real artists who, despite crude, old techniques and old types of materials, were doing marvelous creative makeups.
One of his earliest projects was on the Shirley Temple Storybook he made up Charlton Heston as the beast in Beauty and the Beast.
John would go on to work on such television shows as The Outer Limits, The Wild, Wild West, Night Gallery, and the pilot for Mission: Impossible.
No one on The Planet of the Apes had any concept of what they wanted, only of what they didn't want.
Chamber would try a variety of things, only to receive negative comments from everyone.
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Pow Galactic Ambassador
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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John Chambers (September 12, 1922~August 25, 2001) was awarded the C.I.A.'s Intelligence Medal of Merit for his involvement in the Canadian Caper. Six U.S. hostages escaped from Iran in 1979.
This true-life event was the basis for the 2012 movie "Argo" which won the Academy Award for Best Picture.
In that film, John Goodman portrayed John Chambers.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Good Lord a'mighty, Mike! Your post above is packed with fascinating info about this movie! All of a sudden I'm eager to watch it again.
If I can find a way to upload it to WeTransfer, I'll schedule it for All Sci-Fi's Saturday Live Chat (<— link) in the near future.
Please join us! The chat group has been growing lately and now includes Scotpens, Trekriffic, Gord Gord, Phantom, BigCatRik, Morbius, and me!
But we need you there, too!
Mike, I can't imagine how long it took you to learn all those facts and then compose such a great post! Thanks for keeping All Sci-Fi interesting and imaginative! _________________ ____________
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Planet of the Apes (1968) |
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The Spike wrote: | Heston himself felt that the novel as written was unfilmable, and when director Schaffner came on board, he himself went for a more primitive ape world, as opposed to the one under consideration that featured futuristic high rise buildings and super advanced technology. |
I tried to read the novel yeas ago after seeing the movie, and I just couldn't get into it.
Also, I'm glad they didn't go with "futuristic high rise buildings and super advanced technology." That might have worked, but it seems like the wrong approach. _________________ ____________
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~ The Space Children (1958) |
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