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[Bud Brewster]

The TNG movies are all good . . . except this one.

Seems to me they did practically everything wrong. There were little things I didn't care for, like the way the Enterprise bridge was lit. It was too dark.

Why did they do that? Because this was a big budget movie, not a dinky little TV series? Heck, I don't really know.

There were big things, like the main story concept: this snakey energy phenomenon wanders through the cosmos and puts people into a timeless, quasi-euphoric state . . . forever.

Is this a good idea for a sci-fi movie? Really?

I don't think so.

They wanted to have Captain James T. Kirk symbolically hand off the franchise to Captain Jean-Luc Picard — so they ran poor Shatner around on some rocky terrain and made him fire a phaser at Malcom McDowell until a metal catwalk fell on him.

That was certainly no way for Big Jim to check out. It lacked dignity, class, and scope. In short, it was rinky dink.

They wanted to show off the beloved Galaxy class Enterprise on the big screen . . . and then subject the poor thing to the longest crash scene in cinematic history. I thought that starship was never going to stop plowing through the landscape!

After this sad start, the TNG movies did really well. First Contact was a raging battle with the nasty old Borg. Insurrection was an intelligent drama about moral choices and human rights. Even Nemesis had some good ideas and some interesting characters.

But Star Trek Generations just didn't know quite where it was going or how to get there.
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)

[Pow]

Loved the score for this film.

[Bud Brewster]

I've loved the scores for all the Star Trek movies, both TOS and TNG -- though some are better than others, naturally.

But I've never just listened to the music for this one, so I think I'll do it right now while writing my next brilliant post!

Join me if you like.


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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)

[johnnybear]

I thought this film was great! It brought Kirk and Picard together for the first and last time ever! The Nexus was cool with it's similarities to Christian views of a heavenly afterlife and Picard having the life he'd always really wanted! The Klingons make an appearance along with a few dead Romulans and we get to see the true fate of the great Captain James T.Kirk and his last heroic act before his assumed death 80 years earlier! Strange that Scotty didn't remember this in TNGs Relics a few years earlier!

Plus Kirk saves the day and not only the universe and the lives of the Enterprise D but the fate of the franchise as well!
JB

[Robert (Butch) Day]

When I saw this with Margaret McEwen (bitterpearls on the old board) and her husband she made the audience laugh when the metal catwalk fell on Kirk by exclaiming, "Look! The bridge is on the captain!"
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Common Sense ISN'T Common

[Bud Brewster]

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That is FUNNY!
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)

[orzel-w]

I concur.
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WayneO
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[Bud Brewster]

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I might dislike this movie, but the trailer is balls-to-the-wall cool!

The 14 minute documentary below has some interesting info.
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___________ Star Trek VII: Generations - Trailer


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Everything you need to know about Generations (1994)


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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)

[Maurice]

I had a go at this movie in a tongue-in-cheek piece on WhatCulture.

I or my Fact Trek partner have done this to all the movies through Insurrection, so far.
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"The absence of limitations is the enemy of art."
― Orson Welles

[orzel-w]

[Pow]

Let's see just what The Nitpickers Guide for Next Generation Trekkers, Volume II has to say about this feature film.

Was there a shortage of command level personnel during the selection process for the captaincy of the Enterprise-B? Where did Starfleet dredge up this Harriman guy? He seems completely flustered by the crisis with the El-Aurian transport.
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Sidebar: Agreed. When I first saw this film when it was released, I found Captain Harriman had similar management skills as Colonel Klink. Obviously they were going for chuckles with his scenes, but it comes off as silly and unbelievable that such a person would be in charge of a Federation starship.

Once again the creators would have us believe that Starfleet leaves Earth---the headquarters for the Federation of Planets---devoid of starship resources. The transports that carry the El-Aurians are only three light-years from the solar system and the Enterprise-B is the only ship within range.

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Sidebar: True. This trope is utilized far too often in the Trek films. It also is unbelievable that the Earth is consistently that vulnerable due to lack of starships.

The Borg destroyed the home world of the El-Aurians decades prior to the first encounter of the Borg by the Enterprise-D in the ST: TNG episode "Q Who." Evidently none of the forty-seven people the Enterprise rescued from the energy ribbon bothered to tell anyone in the Federation about the destruction of their home planet because the federation's first introduction to the infamous Borg is in the "Q Who" episode.

After Scotty suggests rigging the main deflector dish for a resonance burst, Jim Kirk takes off from the bridge for deck 15 of the Engineering hull and soon reroutes the appropriate controls. Why didn't Captain Harriman order one of the engineers in Engineering to perform this task? They're already down there and are far more familiar with the starship design.
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Sidebar: Uh, because Kirk has to be the big damn hero and go out with a flourish. Still, the scene really doesn't make much sense.

Having discovered that the Romulans attacked the Amargosa Observatory, Riker orders Data and La Forge over to the observatory. How could Data and La Forge think that this was the opportune moment to install Data's emotion chip just prior to embarking on this dangerous mission?

[Krel]

I haven't seen the movie in a long, long time. But what I got from the Nexus, is that once you are in the Nexus, you will always be in the Nexus. Even if you leave the Nexus, you will still be in the Nexus. If I'm correct, then Kirk and Picard are still out there.

I did love the Christmas Tree ornaments. I wish that they were real.

The original ending had Kirk die by being shot in the back without doing anything. That ending didn't test well with the preview audiences, so they came up with the one you see in the movie.

It's a shame that they killed Kirk. It would make a great story with Kirk's views clashing with Starfleet's views of the era.

David.

[Bud Brewster]

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David, I agree that Generations is flawed for the very reasons you described.
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)