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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I wonder what ever happened to this prop. It would look great on the mantle over my fireplace!
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958)
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Krel. Guest
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | I wonder what ever happened to this prop. It would look great on the mantle over my fireplace!  |
I believe that it is, or was owned by Wade Williams. The prop appeared in the remake, it was in the school basement when the Cops searched it. One of the Cops was played by Jimmy Hunt.
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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The scene Krel mentions above …
Bud, You CAN get a model of the Martian Brain!!!!
This is the one used in the remake.
 _________________ There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Gord! Put that on my Christmas wish list for this years!
But the original seems to look much better. Are we sure that Wade Williams has it? _________________ ____________
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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As a promotion for the movie, a full page comic was published in many Sunday newspapers!
The Martian Brain is perfectly safe to be around....JUST so long as he doesn't gesture in your direction! IF HE DOES YOUR DOOMED!
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Krel Guest
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | But the original seems to look much better. Are we sure that Wade Williams has it? |
That's what I remember reading when the movie came out, but then I could be wrong. In the 70s on, Wade Williams was buying the rights to a lot of old movies and programing, so it seems logical.
He made a low budget "Space Patrol" movie which had Ann Robinson and Robert Clarke in it. I had a friend, Mel Cohen who worked on it. He designed the costumes, made the prop pistols, and costume accessories. He also cast a number of brains, I believe they glowed.
For some reason he couldn't get the movie released. So he made another low budget, alleged comedy movie, "The Midnight Movie Massacre" in 1988. He used the "Space Patrol" footage as the midnight movie. I don't know if this film ever got released, but after seeing it at a World Con around 88/89...My believe is that the film would have to perform an epic escape to be widely available to be seen.
I would really like to see the full "Space Patrol" movie, but as far as I know, it's never been released in any form but IN TMMM.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Thinking Outside the "Plot"!
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~ A Question for the Members: If we assumed that David did NOT just dream the whole thing (as the British version of the film does), would Earth still be in danger from a Martian invasion after winning the first battle with the aliens?
~ My Theory: The Wikipedia synopsis of the plot includes the concept put forth by Arthur Franz's astronomer character, which states that the saucer in the sand pit is the vanguard of an invasion from the planet Mars, and their fleet is now in close orbital proximity to Earth.
The Martians are taking control of various humans to sabotage the rocket which is being built at a research facility nearby. The Martians also want to assassinate certain personnel who are vital to the project.
Franz describes the theory that the Martian civilization is housed in great underground cities and huge spaceships which cruise throughout the solar system.
But the Martians are concerned by the progress of mankind's space program, which they feel will endanger their fragile civilization.
So, the covert mission of the Martian saucer is to reduce mankind's spacefaring potential and then begin a full scale invasion by attacking us from space with weapons fired from the ships in orbit around the Earth.
Assuming that all this is true, the victory we achieved in the movie by destroying the saucer in the sand pit would only be the first battle in a full scale war! The nations of Earth would have to unit in a common cause and defend our planet against these invaders who hope to make our planet their new (and more hospitable) home.
(I just tossed this out to encourage a discussion! For Pete's sake, don't just read my brilliant comments — add a few brilliant ones of you own! _________________ ____________
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Let's Create a Sequel!
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~ A Question for the Members: Do the Martian's we see in this movie create their complex underground lair because their entire civilization on Mars in also underground?
~ Here's what I came up with.: Well, the answer is obviously "Yes!"
Mars is invading because their planet is dying, and the strange creatures we see are genetically designed to breath our atmosphere. They all receive telepathic commands from the intelligent Martian who lives inside a transparent sphere, because our atmosphere is not compatible with it.
I think the Master Race on Mars are like the one we see in the glass sphere, and all they're physical needs are provided by the large creatures like the ones we see lumbering around in the movie!
But the ones on Mars are not genetically altered like the "invasion force" beings we see in the film. In fact, on Mars the Master Race has created hundreds of different "slave beings" in all sizes and shapes, depending on their primary function.
Think of them as "tools in a workshop", ranging in size and shape, the way screwdrivers differ from sledgehammers!
Imagine a sequel in which mankind launches a counter attack against Mars, and we find an underground civilization populated by both the Master Race and a horde of strange creates who range in size and shape, depending on what their intended functions are!
Wow, guys, I'm looking foreword to the replies this imaginative new idea generates! (Please don't let me down . . . ) _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Maurice Starship Navigator

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bud Brewster wrote: | Thanks, Gord! Put that on my Christmas wish list for this years!
But the original seems to look much better. Are we sure that Wade Williams has it? |
There were two Martian leaders: one was just a prop seen in the background or carried. The other, credited as 'Martian in Glass Globe,' was Luze (aka Luce) Potter, one of the Munchkins from The Wizard of Oz. Mirrors and other tricks were used to place her in the bubble.
Her obit linked here, but it wants a login so here's the text.
Quote: | Luz Potter, who has died at Rancho Mirage, Palm Springs, aged 90, enjoyed roles in two cult science fiction films of the 1950s: Invaders from Mars and The Incredible Shrinking Man, and was one of the last surviving Munchkins from The Wizard of Oz.
In Invaders from Mars, billed as "Luce Potter", she played the Martian Intelligence, a gold head with tentacles in a glass bubble which directed evil emerald-green mutants.
For her role Luz Potter spent hours in Republic Studio's make-up department, before being encased in a glass box.
"I had no dialogue," she said in 1997. "It was something of a bit-part really, and yet I've been held in high esteem over the years for panicking generations as the leader of little green men. I had no idea what impact it would have, but fans write to me by the hundreds and say how I scared them to death as kids watching Invaders."
Invaders from Mars, which made it it into a recent Channel 4 poll of "The top 100 Scariest Movie Monsters", told the story of little David Maclean (Jimmy Hunt) who wakes one night to see a flying saucer land. His father (Leif Erickson) investigates and returns with a different personality and a strange mark on his neck.
On its release it was the moment when David comes face to face with Luz Potter, carried in her glass box by a Martian, that got the biggest cries of fear from cinema audiences.
Luz Potter was born to Rosendo and Adelina Villalobo at Chihuahua, Mexico, on December 15 1914. After a limited education, she joined a travelling theatre and circus troupe.
On the suggestion of a friend who considered her "a good little actress," Luz Potter left home for Hollywood in 1938 to play a Munchkin villager in The Wizard of Oz (1939).
Potter had other film roles in the Gloria Jean vehicle Ghost Catchers (1944); Houdini (1953), with Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh; and played Violet, a midget, in The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957), a cult sf film.
Luz Potter retired after a 40-year career in the late 1970s and moved to Rancho Mirage with her husband. In 2003, the 50th anniversary year of Invaders from Mars she granted a few interviews. Latterly she had been suffering from Alzheimer's disease.
Luz Potter, who died on November 21, was predeceased by her husband Edwin "Midge" Potter in 2004. Their son survives her. Her death leaves seven remaining Munchkins. |
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Boy, this movie really made an impression on me back in '53!!!
I saw it on the big screen on a double feature at my local movie theatre....and as I recall I sat in the first row of the balcony.
I really loved that the young boy was the hero of the piece and the reveal that it was a dream....and then repeated blew me away!
The green martians were of course clones, and it just screams for a sequel! _________________ There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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During my 18 years as a school teacher, I taught my young students that good writers never ending a story with " . . . and it all turned out to be dream."
Readers feel cheated when the author pulls that old dodge.
For that reason, I prefer the European release version of this movie. Here's what IMDB says about it in their "Alternate Version" section.
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When released cinematically in 1953, there where two versions: one American and one European. In the American version Jimmy Hunt wakes up at the end, having dreamt it all. Then he hears a flying saucer land.
In the slightly longer European version, the storyline is retained and the "nightmare/waking up-sequence" is cut. This version also adds a section in an observatory. _________________ ____________
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Gord Green Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well Bud, the way the story ended was NOT really "It was all a dream!" but as a premonition of the reality that was to be played out in an endless time loop!
In other words the Jimmy Hunt character was DOOMED to repeat the reality/dream loop for eternity! Reality sliding into a dream state only to become reality again....Or is it?
Pretty Rotton fate, don't cha think?? _________________ There comes a time, thief, when gold loses its lustre, and the gems cease to sparkle, and the throne room becomes a prison; and all that is left is a father's love for his child. |
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Consider this often-ignored fact about the last few seconds of the movie.
The ending shows Jimmy waking up from the dream and rushing into his parents' room, convinced that the dream was real.
After they reassure Jimmy and put him back to bed, he wakes up again later that night and looks out the window, just as he did in the beginning.
He sees what he thinks is the saucer as it drops down behind the sand dune . . . but the soundtrack clearly plays the rising noise of a prop-driven airliner pausing overhead!
The sound of the plane clearly continues all the way through the last shot of Jimmy at the window as he says, "Gee whiz!", and the screen fades to black before The End appears.
Obviously this suggests that Jimmy interpreted a pausing passenger plane as the saucer he'd dreamed about.
Click on the archive.net link below and then skipped to last scene.
https://archive.org/details/invaders-from-mars_202304
The archive.net image of that last shot is so dark that I had to make a screen grab and brighten it a great deal just to allow us to see the landscape and the saucer.
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Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'll put in my pitch for some stop-motion for this film, as I have for others that did not have any s-m.
Imagine the head in the globe with its tentacles as being done with stop-motion animation. It would have appeared even creepier than what they did in this film. Plus, the face need not have been as human-looking as it is here. The facial structure could have been very alien in nature. |
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Bee Bean Junior Crewman
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:51 am Post subject: |
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I would not say this was the best film I ever watched but I enjoyed it.
I took the ending as him being transported to an alternate dimension/back in time. Granted another interpretation is that the Martians took over, but they are not letting him know that people are controlled.
Either way I do not consider it as just a dream or a time loop. (Of course I have some fan theories combining this with 2001, but that obviously has to do with me rewatching that movie earlier this month.)
in terms of my views on it was a dream, it should only be used if, "Do you have a second chance or a heavy character growth the moment".
Granted this only works for very specific ones, and I would say it would have to be a very short series for the most part.
Most the time I do not see it as a dream. You are correct, if you cannot twist it at least four different ways, then it's not good idea.
It was enjoyable the way it was written, with him finding out that people are being controlled. Granted you can tell this film was made in the middle of the military funded science fiction era. Granted I think they did one of the better special effects.
They did a great job restoring it on the TV version, and hopefully they will be playing again. They said they got it from multiple cuts, so I am not sure how different the version I saw is from the traditional release. I am assuming the differences are mostly cosmetic because of the film degrading, but I'm not completely sure.
Krel wrote: | I think it was in a Cinefantastique magazine article on the movie that mentioned the original writer was disappointed in the movie. He didn't see the movie being a dream, but an actual event.
He also made the mistake of putting his phone number in the script, that part was never changed. As a result, every time the movie was shown on tv, he received phone calls as people tried the phone number.
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Hilarious, that must be annoying. _________________ Science and Discovery are important but so is a of the unknown. |
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