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Maurice Starship Navigator

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Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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scotpens wrote: | Pow wrote: | . . . The art and video are marvelous to view. There's a brand new design for the Proteus submarine, it is also larger. I was impressed with it. |
Larger and more practical, maybe, but definitely not as pretty. |
And preposterously oversized. It looks like a 1960s rocket with a Virgin Galactic Spaceship One nosecone. _________________ * * *
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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You're right, Tom! The Harper Goff submarine is MUCH more appealing, with all those view ports giving the crew a wonderful view of the man's internal organs.
The new concept is a nice look spaceship, but it doesn't look much like a sub.  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
~ The Space Children (1958) |
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

Joined: 27 Sep 2014 Posts: 3739 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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FV is currently available on Youtube and its a good print.
One person posted this on YT: "It seems to me that it would be counterintuitive to place the helmsman on top of the ship under the clear bubble. Since the vessel was designed for underwater exploration, he'd be unable to view the ocean floor properly and be unable to navigate through any obstacles."
Interestingly, the Gold Key comic places the navigator in the nose of the Proteus and on the same deck as the rest of the CMDF team.
I spied the video-phones used on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea series on some desks in one of the bottom floor control rooms of the CMDF.
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Wow, the picture does look good!
Too bad it can't be downloaded with the Firefox download add-on. The green "download" button doesn't appear beneath the video window. I know there are other ways to download YouTube videos, but I've never used them myself.
As for the comment concerning the location of helmsman on the Proteus, I think the key advantage to the bubble canopy is the 360° view. And the view of the sea floor would be about the same from the top of the sub as from inside the crew area. In fact, the helmsman's viewing angle in the bubble cockpit is actually steeper than the view from the forward ports!
We should also remember that the Proteus was made to study ocean life, so being able to view aquatic creatures on all sides (and even straight up) would be amazing!
It's sort of like a glass bottom boat which looks UP at the fish, instead of down!
Admittedly the forward section of the sub would block his view of the sea floor just ahead of the sub, but this could be remedied with cameras and sonar which allowed the helmsman to avoid low obstacles ahead of it, and to make a safe touchdown on the seafloor.  _________________ ____________
Is there no man on Earth who has the wisdom and innocence of a child?
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

Joined: 27 Sep 2014 Posts: 3739 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:30 am Post subject: |
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April 28, 2006 draft of a screenplay for a FV movie, written by Harry Kleener, with revisions by Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver.
Megan Colby works at The Alliance Research Facility in the year 2185 in a world with great unrest. She is implanted with a microscopic chip which can both track her whereabouts, as well as be remotely detonated, killing her by her superiors.
Megan illegally sneaks out from the facility in order to meet up with a group of rebels. They jam a resistor into her neck which prevents the Alliance detonating the chip in her neck. However, Megan is still in grave danger because the chip is programmed automatically to detonate in six-hours if there is no contact from her to the facility.
In addition, Megan has smuggled out a brand new prototype microchip that alters the method of execution by the Alliance. To do this, she has injected it into herself.
The rebels are now tasked with safely removing both microchips from Megan. Their plan is to undergo miniaturization and enter her body to obtain both chips. Dr. Charles Grant, an expert in the human body, and former lover of Megan, is recruited to assist the rebels. Unbeknown to Grant and the rebels, there is another foreign body inside Megan.
So this is the outline from the site Scriptsshadow, no other details. Sounds intriguing. I find it strange that 57-years later that no one has produced another Fantastic Voyage movie. No sequel, no reboot, no nothing. We well know that today's state-of-the-art visual effects far surpasses what existed back in 1966. So that isn't any obstacle. But there doesn't appear to be any interest in a brand new version of FV. Curious?
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Bud Brewster Galactic Fleet Admiral (site admin)

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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm . . . perhaps the Hollywood "suits" can't think of a way to make a FV remake that has enough action and explosions to hold the interest of modern audiences.
Plus the fact that a movie about little people and little subs would need to have a lot of sloooow movements while they're swimming through all those bodily fluids.
It's a sad fact that "fast paced" is a requirement of modern action films.
Just a thought. _________________ ____________
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Found the screenplay for FV on the ScifiScripts.com site. Noticed a couple of interesting differences from the screenplay and the feature film.
<Fantastic Voyage> Screenplay by Harry Kleiner, December 22, 1964. Revised: January 18, 1965 & February 26, 1965.
Grant & Cora have a discussion after he rescues her from the antibodies that attacked her. She guesses that he's a secret agent and they discuss how Dr. Duval is under suspicion by the government. Grant also suggests that Cora is possibly in love with Dr. Duval.
There is a finale in the screenplay that wasn't in the movie. Grant & Captain Owens arrive on a motorized cart to the Medical Section of the CMDF. They're there to visit the recovering and awake Benes. Dr. Duval, Cora, and General Carter are in the room.
We learn from General Carter that Benes cannot recall the formula for allowing miniaturized humans & objects to remain tiny beyond the sixty minutes limitation. The very mission of the movie! Dr. Duval thinks it may have been a specific area of Benes brain that was destroyed by the laser beam when Dr. Michaels interfered.
Talk about irony.
The scene ends with Grant and Owens wishing everyone well and getting back into their motorized cart. They leave and another cart plows right into them. Carter, Duval and Cora rush out into the hallway to see Grant & Owens lying on the floor. They're shaken up and have some cuts on their heads. The others want to take them immediately to the emergency department to get checked out and treated. Grant & Owens (wanting nothing more to do with hospitals & doctors) insist that they're both fine. They hop back into their cart, in a panic to get away, a fly down the corridor almost causing an accident with another cart and people on foot.
I found this a silly scene. Too Three Stooges for my taste and I'm glad they did not shoot it. |
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Pow Galactic Ambassador

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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"Medieval philosophers were right. Man is the center of the universe. We stand in the middle of infinity, between outer and inner spaces. And there's no limit to either. "
Dr. Peter Duval. |
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WadeVC Astral Engineer

Joined: 06 Aug 2024 Posts: 255 Location: Pioneer, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Another fun (if not dated) movie that brings back memories of watching it as a little boy with my Mom & Dad.
I found it to be an excellent adventure film and a concept that is interesting to say the least.
I haven't watched it in years, but I may have to rent it on Amazon and give it another watch before too long. _________________ "You look like a pooped out pinwheel."
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